Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Dejnov

So there are currently three weapons that have Assault/Pride: Gungnir (Odin's Weapon, Wind), Holy Sword Ascalon (Eye Shop, Fire) and Lightning Drum Hammer (Raiko, Thunder).

If you had one of those and you were maining one of those elements you'd spend a brick (or 3) on one of these right?

Besides the skills, you probably also want to consider phantom grid synergy. If you're able to complete a phantom grid for a decent type on top of the FLB, that's basically a double win.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

--
Please don't do this to your only reliable way to up any hime weapon that can offer more than most advent FLBs can. I can list you only a single advent FLB weapon I believe is worth bricking, and that's Rahab knife because water's viable options are very limited, and even then I would strongly debate the worth of doing that.

Doesn't this largely depend on how many bricks he needs?

Usually, you need 3 bricks for one of the Hime weapon FLBs. But if he needs just 1 brick per each Advent FLB, then is it not worth it? We're still talking 3 decent FLBs compared to one excellent one. I guess you can argue that "eventually you won't have those decent FLBs in your Grid" though.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Doesn't this largely depend on how many bricks he needs?

Usually, you need 3 bricks for one of the Hime weapon FLBs. But if he needs just 1 brick per each Advent FLB, then is it not worth it? We're still talking 3 decent FLBs compared to one excellent one. I guess you can argue that "eventually you won't have those decent FLBs in your Grid" though.

Eventually not having enough decent FLBs is one thing.

The other, is investing more bricks into something clearly superior than just a decent FLB. That's the endgame mindset, or at least preparing for endgame.

1 brick per; used 1 already for Apocalypse lance, will need 1 more each for Typhon lance/Garuda hammer*/Phoenix bow. If I end up rolling a kamihime with a strong weapon, I'll adjust plans. But until then, that's my intended use for the next few bricks.

Typhon lance is near certain; I'm not waiting another year to throw away another week of farming to end up with nothing yet again. I also won't even be attempting any gacha rolls until mid-late May, which is another tower later. So my kamihime weapon situation will remain the same for a while.

Garuda reprint won't actually run until late July, so it's more like I'll be earmarking one brick for the hammer in case I fail to get a copy to drop. ~800 HE's over the course of Phoenix/Apoc/Typhon couldn't get me a single drop, so I'm pessimistic about Garuda. So I'm planning for a brick here. At any rate, RNG seems to be dead set on making sure I never see a wind SSR hime (or dark for that matter) in this game.

Phoenix bow is the one that has the strongest logical argument to be pushed off to later in order to keep some bricks around; light gets plenty of assault/defender weapons. My light team is comparatively loaded enough that FLBing another bow won't make much of a difference.
But fuck that. It's been half a year since that reprint and I'm still pissed about the farming turning up nothing. I will not be mollified until I FLB that second bow.

So I'm still interested in getting some idea or sample from the group on what is or isn't a good weapon to brick (and at what level).

Slashley, Gludateton, Cobblemaniac, and others what weapons are you planning on bricking?


Dejnov.

What's worth multiple bricks to me would be something that started with one way of directly increasing attack (assault or pride, arguably vigorous if you can make it work) and then pick up a second way. For example, stuff that end up with both assault and pride are highly valued. Bonus points if there's a third skill after that (like Shamash's weapon ends up being assault (M)/defender (M)/pride (S)).
Interestingly, Ascalon starts out already with Assault (L)/Pride (S); FLB raises the Pride up to M. So strictly speaking, the change from FLB in itself isn't as drastic. Still a highly desired weapon to have, but I'm not sure how many bricks it's worth investing in. The rest of the draconic eye exchange weapons are similar; FLB doesn't add a skill to them. It just strengthens the weaker skill. They strike me as the sort of thing where if you're in the business of wielding multiple draconic eye weapons, you're probably not averse to getting more eyes to just exchange for more copies as you need.

Looking over the hime weapon list...
Mars starts with Assault (L)/Defender (S) then picks up Vigorous (S)
As you noted earlier, both Odin and Raikou's weapons would count here; start with Assault (L), then pick up Pride (S)
Mammon's like Mars; start with Assault (L)/Defender (S), picks up Vigorous (S)
Shamash as pointed out earlier starts at Assault (M)/Defender (M), then picks up Pride (S)
Vishnu's like Mars and Mammon

As for the other hime weapons that pick up 3rd skills but are still stuck with 1 way of directly increasing damage? They're probably still worth a brick at least, but may not necessarily be worth 3 bricks?
Like Athena's starts at Defender (L)/Assault (S), then picks up another defender (S).
Or Marduk's starts at Assault (M)/Defender (M), then picks up Exceed (S)
Ale's starts at just Pride (L), but picks up Defender (S)/Ascension (S) together
Atum starts at Defender (L)/Assault (S), picks up Ascension (S)
Couple of weapons out there start with Assault/Defender then pick up Stinger, though Stinger's less popular.

I haven't bought any bricks* from the tower... and don't plan to do so really yet as I don't have the patience to wait for 10k
but I got the eido/wep brick last year from the $100 gacha thingy and LBed Mammon's gun.

Dazzling Gold Carbine FLB - Assault++/Rampart (Defender+Vigorous) and 2.9K max ATK.

I'm not really aiming towards any kind of grid for phantom weapons, it gives me a chance for a gun grid? if that's good? not sure... not too bothered about phantom weps tbh.

i know you will get enough dupes of mammon's gun from those tickets

I'm still a bit lost on the stockage and usage of half pots. How many of them I should keep for any event? More like 50? 100? 200? More? How many may be required for completing an event in average?

I don't need a precise amount, for obvious reasons, but i'm not sure if I should keep stocking or if I should use a bit (I have 260 half pots right now)

Originally Posted by Keyen

I'm still a bit lost on the stockage and usage of half pots. How many of them I should keep for any event? More like 50? 100? 200? More? How many may be required for completing an event in average?

I don't need a precise amount, for obvious reasons, but i'm not sure if I should keep stocking or if I should use a bit (I have 260 half pots right now)

I think last time you were asking if you should use them for the exp rank quests? Those would be a waste of pots. Exp/rank comes automatically over time as long as you play, and rank doesn't really mean anything, especially with ppl who just bot/script up for ranks anyway. But for events like advents, sure use however many pots you need to in order to complete and get all the rewards (the number of pots you'd need is variable, based on how much total AP you have, how actively/efficiently you spend your regen ap daily, etc...) Besides advents, there isn't really much of a sink for ap pots anyway (unless you do Rags daily or something I guess).