Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Argo

Huh? What do you mean my Fire is better than my Light? I figure my Fires would need Svarog and Amaterasu before they become decent, whereas my Lights have been clearing content I never could before thanks to the tips I've been getting lately.
If you're talking about limit breaks on the weapons, I'm sorry but I'm no whale. And I'm not very lucky, either.

Ama is not that great in current meta, Uriel and Acala can carry you find and you can MT Svarog later, your fire grid only need shingen spear and 2 more vlad copy from ori shop to run spear null. Mars spear is one of the most powerful weapon in the game with Assault L defender S vigorous S so you better spend your brick on it, and you will have 2 FLB UE weapon in the next fire UE come about 1 more month. About your light, yeah maybe you have the hime, but your grid is sheet, you have no option for null grid, you can’t FLB your Phoenix bow because you don’t have enough mats, and you miss ALL FLB UE weapon, 5 OF THEM!!!. So yeah. That’s your fault for holding too long on a shitty Union.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ama is not that great in current meta, Uriel and Acala can carry you find and you can MT Svarog later, your fire grid only need shingen spear and 2 more vlad copy from ori shop to run spear null. Mars spear is one of the most powerful weapon in the game with Assault L defender S vigorous S so you better spend your brick on it, and you will have 2 FLB UE weapon in the next fire UE come about 1 more month. About your light, yeah maybe you have the hime, but your grid is sheet, you have no option for null grid, you can’t FLB your Phoenix bow because you don’t have enough mats, and you miss ALL FLB UE weapon, 5 OF THEM!!!. So yeah. That’s your fault for holding too long on a shitty Union.

Wow, rude.
Excuse me for a) wanting to operate a union with my brother, and b) not getting more serious about the game until recently. Do the light and dark union events not get any more reruns?
And my Acala isn't Awakened and won't be for a while, so she's extra glass being stuck with the def drop. I have no eyes right now.

Originally Posted by Argo

Wow, rude.
Excuse me for a) wanting to operate a union with my brother, and b) not getting more serious about the game until recently. Do the light and dark union events not get any more reruns?
And my Acala isn't Awakened and won't be for a while, so she's extra glass being stuck with the def drop. I have no eyes right now.

Oops sorry not try to be rude. Light and Dark have 1 more rerun and a extra greed so you will have total 4 FLB for each element. Yay... but null axe is still meh. I would still recommend fire but your choice I guess

And for your eyes problem, I have nothing but good luck

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Oops sorry not try to be rude. Light and Dark have 1 more rerun and a extra greed so you will have total 4 FLB for each element. Yay... but null axe is still meh. I would still recommend fire but your choice I guess

And for your eyes problem, I have nothing but good luck

It's fine; I understand that I'm probably being irritating by asking so many questions. But I thirst for knowledge!
Alright, good to know. Well, now that we have allies we should be able to get more weapons out of the union battles and catch back up a little.
Thanks.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

the fact that you have kirin and your thunder is the weakest element make me believe that you have 100% eido for other element too. Which mean you not gonna invest your MT on BaalU which make your team can’t run shingen. So i would say Herc is ok for your thunder team because it gonna stay shit forever because you already miss so many UE weapon

As for healing opption for your thunder team. If i were you i will go fuck heal and run Cyclops instead of Gryla. But if you still want to use thunder for s o m e r e a s o n. Then Sol AW is a good opption. Adro is for supporting Warag

Only have 2 100%ers: Kirin and Rudra, both at 1 star, though Rudra only due to a break item. Thunder is my weakest because my other teams have hime that work well together or have a lot more invested in them. I want to improve this team because about all it's good for is Water SP quests and Advent Battles. It can't handle Ultimate Raids very well and it certainly can't be used for Accessory Quests.

Light was my weakest until recently, but Eros, Metatron, and Midnight Maiden Tsukuyomi alongside Michael, Vishnu and Arthur/Masamune have made it much faster and outperforms my Thunders, even with Kirin.

As for a reason to use them...you don't? The best way to get materials/accessories for one element is to use the one it's weak to. When I want to boost my #1 team, I use my Fire Team. When I boost my #2, I'd like to be able to use my Thunder Team.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

With Marduk, Raiko and Tyr you're fairly fast (even possibly Shingen fast). I'd replace Gryla with Thor (paralysis) and just take the hits. You should run Hercules with her Axe (at the least) and work to limit breaking that. It'll get you -25% DEF (which you're missing right now).

As recommended to your brother, any SSR weapon with both Assault/Defender should be leveled and also skill raised immediately. That means Raiko's and Marduk's are the first you should go for. An awesome choice is Raiko's; it gives Assault++/Pride which is all offense! Raise that shit first. Your team should benefit greatly just from that.

If you really need some healing, you can give Hercules Perdu lab and hope that keeps you going. Or use Orlean Call, but I wouldn't use Andromeda as your base soul. She'll slow you down and keep getting you killed. You need a soul that's fast in your first slot. That's either Shingen or Hercules. And either soul weapon is a solid long term investment.

Dejnov.


P.S. As above, MTix for Baal Unleashed for your 4th slot. Screw healing and just go all assault with Lightning.

I very nearly chose BaalU for the Mtik before this one, but decided on NikeU to give some love to my long suffering secondary team. It's funny that around the same time I pulled Poseidon, Cthulhu, and Ea.

My Fire team is also running Herc with the Axe, though I've only got the one copy so far. But it's working very well. Uriel (Awakened), Acala (Awakened), Kishar, and Brynhildr, with Ra and Yamaraja in reserve.

By far my most powerful team is Wind, and that's even with me gimping it with an entire spread of Wind Eidolons backing Pazuzu. Joan of Arc, Gaia (Awakened), Azazel, Hastur, and Set with CybeleU and Isis in reserve. +99 LV125 St.Gauche with SL20...I can autobattle most content, and when I pay attention I can solo Thunder Ultimates. Imagine if I put proper Eidos in there? And now that I've learned that unbroken SSRs are better than LV85 SRs, I'm expecting even more in the future. I'm thinking of either Titania or CuChulainn for the next Mtik.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ama is not that great in current meta, Uriel and Acala can carry you find and you can MT Svarog later, your fire grid only need shingen spear and 2 more vlad copy from ori shop to run spear null. Mars spear is one of the most powerful weapon in the game with Assault L defender S vigorous S so you better spend your brick on it, and you will have 2 FLB UE weapon in the next fire UE come about 1 more month. About your light, yeah maybe you have the hime, but your grid is sheet, you have no option for null grid, you can’t FLB your Phoenix bow because you don’t have enough mats, and you miss ALL FLB UE weapon, 5 OF THEM!!!. So yeah. That’s your fault for holding too long on a shitty Union.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Oops sorry not try to be rude. Light and Dark have 1 more rerun and a extra greed so you will have total 4 FLB for each element. Yay... but null axe is still meh. I would still recommend fire but your choice I guess

Not buying the trying not to be rude thing. There are nicer ways to speak. But I guess that's just how human beings are these days.

We all have personal preferences, and if my Brother wishes to play Light, that's up to him. He's come to ask for advice to improve what he wants to improve. Responding to his earnest request is all well and good, but please try not to throw dirt on his ideas. Surely there's things you like to do that go against the grain?

I mentioned above that Wind is my most powerful team even with me gimping it with a full spread of Wind eidolons. It wasn't always that way. Gaia, Azazel, and Set were from Mtix. CybeleU and Isis are new from the last couple months. My point is, I had to work very hard to get Wind to where it is. Even early on saw my pulls leaning Water, though it took over a year before a single SSR showed up.
Nothing is impossible, just difficult.

Originally Posted by Argo

It's fine; I understand that I'm probably being irritating by asking so many questions. But I thirst for knowledge!
Alright, good to know. Well, now that we have allies we should be able to get more weapons out of the union battles and catch back up a little.
Thanks.

You're nicer than I am. Just remember that we still have to work hard to get what we want from this game, even if we don't exactly know what that is. As long as we have fun with the way we all do things.

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Okay, I think typing this and responding hours later while watching the God-damn Batman kick ass is messing with my head. (Batman vs Two-Face is a thing?!)

Originally Posted by Quarters

Not buying the trying not to be rude thing. There are nicer ways to speak. But I guess that's just how human beings are these days.

We all have personal preferences, and if my Brother wishes to play Light, that's up to him. He's come to ask for advice to improve what he wants to improve. Responding to his earnest request is all well and good, but please try not to throw dirt on his ideas. Surely there's things you like to do that go against the grain?

I mentioned above that Wind is my most powerful team even with me gimping it with a full spread of Wind eidolons. It wasn't always that way. Gaia, Azazel, and Set were from Mtix. CybeleU and Isis are new from the last couple months. My point is, I had to work very hard to get Wind to where it is. Even early on saw my pulls leaning Water, though it took over a year before a single SSR showed up.
Nothing is impossible, just difficult.



You're nicer than I am. Just remember that we still have to work hard to get what we want from this game, even if we don't exactly know what that is. As long as we have fun with the way we all do things.

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Okay, I think typing this and responding hours later while watching the God-damn Batman kick ass is messing with my head. (Batman vs Two-Face is a thing?!)

Hm, I apologize if I've come across as preachy.

Originally Posted by Argo

Alrighty then, I'll start working on my SSRs. Thanks for all the help again. Damn, guess I was wasting time leveling the SRs. So many wasted R weapons...oh well, live and learn. Should I replace the SRs in my grids with them right away (well, after they hit lv50), or is it better to wait until they get to an equivalent skill level to the SR they're replacing? Leveling skills feels like the slowest thing for me right now.

And these are my available SSRs for my Light, Dark, and Fires. Are there any I should prioritize over others? Like, for Darks Kali's weapon has Pride and Barrage, would that be more important than Amaterasu's mirror for example?
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And does getting a single Phantom drop really mean overhauling the whole grid? I thought you'd want several before committing to that.

And what do Lugh, Iris, and Takeminakata do? I hadn't heard of them before today. And who would they replace?
And I guess Pluto would probably replace Chernobog on my Darks were I to go after her, yes? Kyc was telling me about her earlier.

I would only look to raise and include SSR weapons that are assault/defender. The dual assault/barrage and others are not nearly as useful, nor would I recommend trying to upgrade them to replace an SR that is MLBed. For those weapons they truly need to be limit breaked at least once before they can compete.

I would always prioritize Assault over all other skills. You don't need any single skill defender weapons in your grid (you should only put a defender into the grid when it also has assault or pride).

Phantom drops (I have none also) are not required; especially if you don't have 5 other of the same type. It's better to have a full grid of assault/defender weapons than to mess up and go with a weaker set of single skill weapons just to use the phantom weapon. Some phantom weapons are not great (about half of them) and don't give assault as a base skill. No one really is looking out to use them.

I would not replace Chernobog; she is phenomenal. With provisional forest on Herc and Pluto's and Kaiser Eidolon's damage ups activated, my Chernobog has been able to hit 1 Million burst against Light AQ5. You have to think how to use her. Her Cherno skill is great, she has high combo rate, and cuts burst gauge/raise her own burst gauge. Strong striker for your dark team.

I wouldn't worry about Pluto at this moment; it's just a suggestion for when you have a Miracle Ticket.

The other Lights I just mentioned are slowly being released this year; they are all phenomenal Himes. A lot of people advocate for raising a really strong team by using your Mtix to get them flexibility as opposed to strengthening a weak team. It focuses your resources and also keeps you growing. Light and Dark, but really Light, benefit from having no elemental weakness and are perfect for specializing in.


Dejnov.

Originally Posted by Quarters

Only have 2 100%ers: Kirin and Rudra, both at 1 star, though Rudra only due to a break item. Thunder is my weakest because my other teams have hime that work well together or have a lot more invested in them. I want to improve this team because about all it's good for is Water SP quests and Advent Battles. It can't handle Ultimate Raids very well and it certainly can't be used for Accessory Quests.

Light was my weakest until recently, but Eros, Metatron, and Midnight Maiden Tsukuyomi alongside Michael, Vishnu and Arthur/Masamune have made it much faster and outperforms my Thunders, even with Kirin.

As for a reason to use them...you don't? The best way to get materials/accessories for one element is to use the one it's weak to. When I want to boost my #1 team, I use my Fire Team. When I boost my #2, I'd like to be able to use my Thunder Team.



I very nearly chose BaalU for the Mtik before this one, but decided on NikeU to give some love to my long suffering secondary team. It's funny that around the same time I pulled Poseidon, Cthulhu, and Ea.

My Fire team is also running Herc with the Axe, though I've only got the one copy so far. But it's working very well. Uriel (Awakened), Acala (Awakened), Kishar, and Brynhildr, with Ra and Yamaraja in reserve.

By far my most powerful team is Wind, and that's even with me gimping it with an entire spread of Wind Eidolons backing Pazuzu. Joan of Arc, Gaia (Awakened), Azazel, Hastur, and Set with CybeleU and Isis in reserve. +99 LV125 St.Gauche with SL20...I can autobattle most content, and when I pay attention I can solo Thunder Ultimates. Imagine if I put proper Eidos in there? And now that I've learned that unbroken SSRs are better than LV85 SRs, I'm expecting even more in the future. I'm thinking of either Titania or CuChulainn for the next Mtik.





Not buying the trying not to be rude thing. There are nicer ways to speak. But I guess that's just how human beings are these days.

We all have personal preferences, and if my Brother wishes to play Light, that's up to him. He's come to ask for advice to improve what he wants to improve. Responding to his earnest request is all well and good, but please try not to throw dirt on his ideas. Surely there's things you like to do that go against the grain?

I mentioned above that Wind is my most powerful team even with me gimping it with a full spread of Wind eidolons. It wasn't always that way. Gaia, Azazel, and Set were from Mtix. CybeleU and Isis are new from the last couple months. My point is, I had to work very hard to get Wind to where it is. Even early on saw my pulls leaning Water, though it took over a year before a single SSR showed up.
Nothing is impossible, just difficult.



You're nicer than I am. Just remember that we still have to work hard to get what we want from this game, even if we don't exactly know what that is. As long as we have fun with the way we all do things.

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Okay, I think typing this and responding hours later while watching the God-damn Batman kick ass is messing with my head. (Batman vs Two-Face is a thing?!)

Look like you not like me and the way i “fix” your brother’s error, it’s ok, i understand you are a big bro so that is what you do.

I will give you some advice and i hope you like to hear it despite i’m rude because i feel trigger when ppl with money play the game poorly. Your wind need titania AW to actually funtion well, from this point i dont care about your grid anymore because it not important in your eyes, you have kirin and rudra but your water himes is not that impressive, so if i were you i will go full invest on thunder because of raiko and marduk anf their OP AW in future, your next MT will be Dian, and Thunder Apro in the next anniversary MT will be your last piece of that OP thunder comp. I believe that comp can compare to any top team from any element in this whole game and you can throw it in any content.

The reason why i say you shouldn’t care about thunder is i though you have a 100% eido in your strongest team and water tower( the only event that require you to use thunder) is just gone and will not come back in a year. A 100% eido add enough dmg for you to beat most content even if it’s on ELEMENTAL DISADVANTAGE ( at least for me tho, my fire team is the only team that can beat water AQ5, not try with GO yet because at that time i’m still not strong enough so waiting for it to come back and try it, and i’m not whale at all, i just buy 3 MT and a belial from reroll and that’s it, the 3rd MT is Mars mostly for her weapon, it’s not like i need her in my team), so yeah if you play right, elemental advantage is nothing, just a cherry on top.

I know you work hard, that’s why i recomment focus on 1 element at a time and max it before go to another, and if you have 100% eido, you probally don’t need other element whatsoever

Originally Posted by Argo

And I guess Pluto would probably replace Chernobog on my Darks were I to go after her, yes?

Imo that is not a priority, and only something worth considering when Chernobog has already hit capped damage with buffs/debuffs and your other Himes are catching up with the upgrade of your weapon grid. Also I did mention it might be "more worth it" when we finally get Dark Rags, and you are able to give her triple Tiara. Pluto is decently fast, but would probably need the 15% DATA from Tiara to match your team efficiently.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

I would not replace Chernobog; she is phenomenal. With provisional forest on Herc and Pluto's and Kaiser Eidolon's damage ups activated, my Chernobog has been able to hit 1 Million burst against Light AQ5. You have to think how to use her. Her Cherno skill is great, she has high combo rate, and cuts burst gauge/raise her own burst gauge. Strong striker for your dark team.

I wouldn't worry about Pluto at this moment; it's just a suggestion for when you have a Miracle Ticket.

Dejnov.

Edited:
I agree that "at this moment" it's not something he has to consider ASAP, and probably won't for a lil while. It's mainly because he has AW Satan, Thanatos, Osiris and wants to run a fast team with Shingen that I recommended Pluto for later on.

Chernobog is very strong(carries my dark together with Kali) but considering how we will eventually be getting debuff immune contents, the Lack of buffs might hurt. So it kinda felt like replace Cherno with Pluto at that point, which his weapon grid by then would be upgraded would benefit him well. Also, assuming he can get fast bursts, since PF is used every other full burst, it seems that Pluto could rotate buffs with PF for bursting(or even stack together).
AW Satan+Thanatos provides AC(15+20) frames Def Down and Drk RST(10) down which is useful for bosses he can debuff, and against immune they are the fastest(that I know of) himes for running Shingen. At least that's what was on my mind when I recommended him replacing Chernobog with Pluto in the far future.