Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

They are the strongest free summon a vet can get in game, but not without requirement.

Their effect offers neither character or element attack of their own, but rather, it boosts all Weapon Skills of the matching prefix(Prominence/Inferno/Burning/Fire for example) on your grid by X% (40% at MLB). Obviously, the prefix thing is excludes those unique ones from Null weapons and Hero weapons. Anyway, what that means is, the stronger your grid is, the stronger they become.

For example, if you have an average simple grid of 150% assault 50% defender and nothing else on your Thunder grid, then Phul is as good as a 60% Character Attack 20% defender summon... which is already gacha tier. Now imagine if your grid looks like this: 180% Assault 80% Defender 100% Ascension 80% Exceed Burst Dmg 60% Exceed Burst Cap, your Guardian summon will become 72% Character Attack 32% Defender 40% Ascension 32% Burst Dmg 24% Cap. That's some serious boost there.

How about their weapon?
Should we prioritize getting eidolon first or those looking good weapon?

And does that mean it's better not to build phantom grid weapon if we use Olympia angel?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

They are the strongest free summon a vet can get in game, but not without requirement.

Is double 100%+ eidolon still the dominant strategy though? I was hoping they will rebalance in such a way that if you have a 100%+, your optimal support will be one of these olympia eidolons, so people have some incentive to befriend people without 100%+. That doesn't seem to be the case unless some insane weapons are coming out, too.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

1. With grail buffs at 100 affliction resistance, will that guarantee or close to guarantee that none of the afflictions from the water boss will land?
2. If not, will 100 grails plus using all thunder himes be sufficient to more or less guarantee no afflictions land?
3. Do the enemy DoT have a cap? 'cos if it has a low cap, say max 1k damage, I could also just max hp grails instead and go pure offense with hime line up and kill the boss before the DoT kills my team (though petrified will still be a problem if it lands)

Even Thunder team + 100 Resistance + Kirin buff will be getting debuffs. Still, you might want the resistance since it DOES help. As for the debuffs, I don't remember did they cap or not.

Overall Sloth is not a tough boss, though. Mostly since Phantom Elemental Lord Thor will Paralyze the shit out of her. So if you have Thor, just forget about Resistance and just go Affliction. Even without Thor, the real damage she deals is like, once every six turns. There's lots of damage cuts with 6t CD, so you can just AAB with a couple of those and only the DoTs will deal damage to you.

My main team is wind and I will able to awaken one of my kamihimr this week. Not sure to awaken Gaia or Amon, any advice?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

My main team is wind and I will able to awaken one of my kamihimr this week. Not sure to awaken Gaia or Amon, any advice?

I don't feel very qualified to give out advice, but I'd say that since Amon cannot be awakened you'd probably want to go with Gaia.

What does Special attack do???

I made a 3 element team with a useless Eidolon that did 2.5-2.7k dmg on average

Then I used diabolos with 100% special attack bonus and the dmg numbers didn't change??? Shouldn't it double??

Compare to changing Eidolon to Python and my dmg numbers went up to ~3.4k for the dark kamihimes

Also what are the specifics of "commensurate"?? I know it's proportional but does anyone have the exact math on it???

Originally Posted by iamnoob

What does Special attack do???

I made a 3 element team with a useless Eidolon that did 2.5-2.7k dmg on average

Then I used diabolos with 100% special attack bonus and the dmg numbers didn't change??? Shouldn't it double??

Compare to changing Eidolon to Python and my dmg numbers went up to ~3.4k for the dark kamihimes

Also what are the specifics of "commensurate"?? I know it's proportional but does anyone have the exact math on it???

This youtube vid explains a lot about diabolos in the pinned comment:

/watch?v=lQ_K9x-6zNc

just, only use her if you've pulled her but don't have a 100% eidolon of your own. you also shouldn't use her in longer fights cause you're still using 2 off element characters

she's just a means to higher damage for those without a 100% eidolon

Ok got it.

Btw is there any way to "decraft" items? like use higher level items and break them into lower level items?

E.g Holy star of light ---> holy crystal of light?

I have 0 holy crystals and have almost 20 stars....

Originally Posted by iamnoob

What does Special attack do???

I made a 3 element team with a useless Eidolon that did 2.5-2.7k dmg on average

Then I used diabolos with 100% special attack bonus and the dmg numbers didn't change??? Shouldn't it double??

Compare to changing Eidolon to Python and my dmg numbers went up to ~3.4k for the dark kamihimes

Also what are the specifics of "commensurate"?? I know it's proportional but does anyone have the exact math on it???

Special Atk is its own modifier, just like Character/Assault is and Elemental is. If you have a proper Grid for Assault modifier, you should notice a significant increase from using SSR Diabolos. If you don't have much of a Grid yet, then the difference between 90% Character and 100% Special isn't much.

SSR Diabolos is really tough to make work though, since you can't give proper Assault/Elemental to your two off-elemental characters... not to mention what happens when somebody on your team dies. It is possible to make work, but unless you know exactly what you're doing, I'd recommend not even trying.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This youtube vid explains a lot about diabolos in the pinned comment:

/watch?v=lQ_K9x-6zNc

I didn't watch that, but wasn't that MagicSpice's YouTube channel? So I wouldn't trust that information for longer than what I can throw it.

Also wtf is with the event difficulty spike from standard to expert. I can auto no ability win standard but expert 1 hit KOs my entire party....