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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    I did some thinking after helping a user decide what to do with his Black Amaterasu and Gaia reroll, and realized that Dark Amaterasu entirely changes the Dark build strategy. Dark Amon / Satan are no longer required in a team with Dark Amaterasu. Instead, such players should aim for a Burst build with Shingen. They'll run Shingen + Ambush, Osiris (heals and synergy with Shingen), Hades, Thanatos (DEF -40% -> -50%), and Dark Amaterasu. That covers all core debuffs (including overdrive extension), gets DEF to -50%, and enables double damage with Bursts, allowing Dark teams to Burst right through Rage phases. This build is not possible without Dark Amaterasu, as it would require sacrificing either overdrive extension or Sniper Shot.

    I added this to my guide as a third build for Miracle tickets, but I'm not sure if it's worth elaborating on since Dark Amaterasu is limited and therefore it'll just be a distraction to most players.
    Imo for a burst oriented build, Satan would be a good (if not better) alternative to Hades (and then change ambush for Trial by jury) :

    -You'll still hit -40% atk -50% def
    -You'll gain -10% dark rst
    -Satan's darkness lost and Shingen burst potential should be enough to avoid raging overdrive completely
    -The only thing you'll really miss is the affliction block

    This is a boss killer team, while a team with Hades will be better on trash for guild order for instance.

    For those who will get Dark Amateratsu during next year reprint, Samael will be available at that time and will synergize better with Amon than Thanatos (-45% def, -25% dark rst...) But then its not a burst build anymore

    edit : thinking about it i realise we wont get Satan's awakening before ~8 month. So meh... forget it i guess
    Last edited by Yolodesu; 01-07-2018 at 03:44 AM.

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    -45% Def and -25% Dark Resist is the same thing as -50% Def, though. Supposedly debuffs will land better with -25% Dark Resist, but that's it.

    So at most the benefit is that SSR Amon + Samael hits the Def cap by themselves, but then you're basically halving the usefulness of Sniper Shot, which doesn't quite seem to be a benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    -45% Def and -25% Dark Resist is the same thing as -50% Def, though. Supposedly debuffs will land better with -25% Dark Resist, but that's it.
    Really? I was convinced that element resist down allowed you to go past the -50% def cap. Oh well, i guess i've learned something today.

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    hello

    Hello, im newbie and i did some rolls to get some good start.

    I got 5 ssr on one roll. Susanoo, Gaia, Hades, Ea and Metatron. Is this worth tho or should i roll to get a good combo. If this a good start what element should i go for? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Hello, im newbie and i did some rolls to get some good start.

    I got 5 ssr on one roll. Susanoo, Gaia, Hades, Ea and Metatron. Is this worth tho or should i roll to get a good combo. If this a good start what element should i go for? Thanks.
    How long did you spend rerolling to get that? It's not really that impressive considering the sheer number of SSRs, but you could make a Dark team out of it with Gaia as sub and SSR Amon / Satan as a Miracle ticket pick. On the other hand, if you were going for a Dark team right now you might as well start with Dark Amaterasu. Better growth prospects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    How long did you spend rerolling to get that? It's not really that impressive considering the sheer number of SSRs, but you could make a Dark team out of it with Gaia as sub and SSR Amon / Satan as a Miracle ticket pick. On the other hand, if you were going for a Dark team right now you might as well start with Dark Amaterasu. Better growth prospects.
    I rolled like 40-50 times around that. Got only 2 or 3 ssr and then in one roll got 5 at the same time but they seem weak for what ive searched. Its a shame

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    guys which soul should i get next (hercules,andromeda,arthur and the junk soul).i already have (d'artagna,joan,mondred,siegfried)

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