Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Feel free to debate my point, but I'd rather not argue in absolutes. Outside of the fact that yes, Siegfried relies heavily on the presence of a boss gauge and burst time... how exactly does she perform less in a situation where the gauge does exist? You argue Arthur does better, but you can't use the concept of burst time when you've just assumed a situation where burst time doesn't exist...

Literally the worst soul is quite a stretch... pretty sure that medal belongs to Solomon in cost to reward ratio.

You argue that MVP is attained by being strong... yeah that's a given, but that's also an issue of when you enter the raids. You can be as strong as you want, but if you can't dish out enough damage in time... I don't see how? As far as I know, as low-tier as stun punishers are (are they? I'm not well versed enough in the meta), don't you agree that when stun sniped at the correct time, the ragna MVP is pretty much yours?

Theres no point in arguing cause theres no chance that sieg is stronger than arthur with pf during burst time (yeah im assuming burst time cause sieg without burst time is trash).

1- The more people in a raid, the harder it is to land the stun full burst.
2- The existing soft cap makes sieg to lose dmg the better your grid is (opposite to arthur)
3- Arthur with pf doesnt need stun at all to do 1.5x+~ your sieg full burst dmg.
4- By the time the boss is stun and you are ready to use your op stun punisher full burst, arthur already destroyed you with her pf full burst+ autoattacks.

Originally Posted by Ikki

Theres no point in arguing cause theres no chance that sieg is stronger than arthur with pf during burst time (yeah im assuming burst time cause sieg without burst time is trash).

1- The more people in a raid, the harder it is to land the stun full burst.
2- The existing soft cap makes sieg to lose dmg the better your grid is (opposite to arthur)
3- Arthur with pf doesnt need stun at all to do 1.5x+~ your sieg full burst dmg.
4- By the time the boss is stun and you are ready to use your op stun punisher full burst, arthur already destroyed you with her pf full burst+ autoattacks.

Ah, I did indeed forget about the burst limit and Shingen... Fair enough.

seriously tho , the amount of rape is getting out of hand. As it stands , from all the souls i have unlocked (14 - before i started visiting the forum , i've unlocked some souls at random) , only 5 were not raped.

And i'd have no issue with rape if it made sense at least. Latest one was rosenkreuz (or whatever her name is) , getting tied by a prince. A single prince , with no escort , beating a legendary soul....and raping her in a cave. Where did he even had the vibrator hiden anyway ?

Shingen essentially supplants Siegfried. She fills the same role and does it better, without the timing issues. The caveat with Shingen is that a proper Burst build requires a source of burst gauge up, which often means sacrificing an EX slot.

Siegfried's now more like someone you'd pick up towards the end just for the passive. In this case, to squeeze out a bit more rage gauge throttle for your soul. (somehow, Solomon is useless even for this)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Siegfried's now more like someone you'd pick up towards the end just for the passive. In this case, to squeeze out a bit more rage gauge throttle for your soul. (somehow, Solomon is useless even for this)

If reducing the Raging gauge was the goal, and a Burst build wasn't possible, you'd probably be better off using Gilgamesh's % rage reduction ability rather than a direct damage skill.

Wait...I don't get the direction here. Wouldn't the rage gauge throttle passive be a small % boost to all types of damage in rage gauge calculations? Like I assume that it's the same type of thing as Siegfried's morale boost or Acala's land of ire? If it's not, then I have no idea what it could be then.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Wait...I don't get the direction here. Wouldn't the rage gauge throttle passive be a small % boost to all types of damage in rage gauge calculations? Like I assume that it's the same type of thing as Siegfried's morale boost or Acala's land of ire? If it's not, then I have no idea what it could be then.

Siegfried's Morale boost is not a direct upgrade of Gilgamesh's equivalent skill. Siegfried's skill adds a very small amount of rage reduction to every attack, while Gilgamesh's skill directly reduces the rage meter by 20%. Gilgamesh's skill is much stronger in practice. The skill I was referring to, and I assumed you were referring to, was Siegfried's damage skill that does high damage to Raging enemies.