Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

When do I get Vine? I just got to the second map since I started playing during the event.

you gotta make it all the way the the last area (it's got a lot of dark enemies).

there, you can grind for drops and trade them for Vine. but last i heard, you can't max break her cause you'll be short a copy due to nutaku making an error on that

although quite frankly, you can do quite well without going out of your way for her if you get 40% def down (if you have Amon Unleashed, then 45% is possible)... which is possible if you have the right souls (gawain and d'art). if you have something like 30% or less in def down debuffs, then you might want her and will want to toss her in as a sub eidolon

also, yamata-no-orochi carries a def debuff as well. if you happen to pull her (she's SR as well), you might want to leave some copies of her.

I'm probably doing something wrong, but how does the bonus stats stack? (I do not talk about the debuffs of spells, but rather the eidolon power). I'm at rank 40 and i have a HARD time to solo expert stuff. Now, in those situation, i should get eidolon of the element type i'm using (in this case fire) and those who give more HP%.

Now, to the second question; Does stacking MULTIPLE of the same Eidolon work, or the eidolon power is only unique?

Now for the third question(which kinda goes back to the first question); Is there a limit/maximum of a stats that can be achieved with eidolon?

Since my character are quite low in HP (like 3k or so, 3,9k with a 25% hp eidolon)(which help btw to SURVIVE to ONE(1) of Baron's(50(expert)) AoE lightning. And with the LIMITED heals that fire kamihime have(from what i've seen so far)(water being the top for that) I MUST HAVE Cassiopia to get an extra 1-3 turns(of only 1-3 kamihime alive)

And with that, you probably figure out the last and most obvious question of them all: WTF am i doing wrong?

(Yes, i know, Baron is LIGHT, and my team is 4/5 Fire and the Water healer Kamihime from the start) So that doesn't help to get the damage reduced, but that is my STRONGEST element BY FAR!

SO now here i am...

They get added to your assault or element damage multipliers depending on what the text says. For example, fire character atk is not the same as plain text just saying fire atk.

You will get the base stats of all your own eidolons but only your main eidolon will have its passive effect activated and the support eidolon you choose to use at the start of any battle, even if that one isn't your friends, you will still get its effect.

There is no stat limit from eidolons. There are limits and caps in the game but eidolon stats is not one of them.

You're better off using a R eidolon that boost fire atk that you can find in gem gacha or the first story area than using a SSR eidolon that doesn't support your team at all.

I main fire too. The game does not have many good healers; I think only Water has more than one good healer right now. Fire has the SR Brynhild, which heal 1200 at max level. R Konohana-Sakuya heals 500 and reduce enemy attack, maybe one of the bests R of the game. What Fire has is a good quantity of regeneration/energy drain (SR Sun Quan, a limited of some months ago, SR Ragaraja, SSR Amaterasu, SSR Dakki). Amaterasu is very important for a good fire team.
You only have the passive bonus of your main Eidolon and the friend Eidolon. Secondary Eidolons give the attack and HP and active skills, but not the passive abilities. The maximum bonus of the Eidolons is the one of their maximum level; I'm not sure I understand you here.
Weapons are very relevant; each R, SR and SSR weapon give you skill that go up the attack and/or HP of Kamihime, but only those of the same element. Try to use a weapon grit with as many weapons of the team element as you can, and level the weapons skill using R weapons.
Abilities that do damage over time are very good at the beginning of the game, but lose much punch as you acquire more power. Attack and defense down, on the other hand become more useful. Attack and defense buffs have their uses, but the debuffs are more important that buffs. Those debuffs not always stack. See here what buffs and debuffs stacks.
http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Abilities
I find normal that at rank 40 with no elemental advantage you have some problems. You need a bit of patience. For more advice, you should post what Kamihime and Eidolons you have on your team.

Heals aren't really a problem with fire. The problem right now is that fire events are currently in a dry period, thus you dont have many ways to strengthen your team.

Another question(that i forgot to mention)

On a comparaison with eidolons, how big are the weapon skill levels(either character atk+ or HP) if all my weapons are fire(eidolon to compare would be the biggest of them all, Belial)

Like Let's say Weapon Fire HP Skill level 1, how much of a boost is Weapon Fire HP Skill level 2?

Because well ...(Despite that my weapons being of different elements ..... (Because the past events went generous to those ATK weapon (which i have only 2 or 3)

And now, for my (you guess it) next question(which is going to be extremely stupid to all of you.

All of your highest ATK weapon(but of different element) or all weapon of a single element(with are more lower than the first option)

I do think the hgiehst ATK weapons win by far, but damn, i feel like doing 200k at lvl 40 is NOTHING and i should do way more than that.

Normally, same element is better option. At first when you level up you can use some weapons of other elements while you lack good weapons of your element, but going after a pure grit is a primary goal.

Each weapons level is a 0.5% to attack or HP. SR have an 3% extra and SSR with ++ have an 6% extra. What do you mean with 200k? On a Burst? one attack? final total damage?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm probably doing something wrong, but how does the bonus stats stack? (I do not talk about the debuffs of spells, but rather the eidolon power). I'm at rank 40 and i have a HARD time to solo expert stuff.--

(which help btw to SURVIVE to ONE(1) of Baron's(50(expert)) AoE lightning. --

When you're rank40, you're not supposed to be able to solo raid content. It's multiplayer for a reason. Do what you can and let others take care of the rest. You'll have issues in Advent content like the next event, though.

Originally Posted by Delete

See here what buffs and debuffs stacks.
http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Abilities--

I'd rather recommend
Aken's list. I don't really trust public wikis. They also tend to get outdated and abandoned.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

--
Like Let's say Weapon Fire HP Skill level 1, how much of a boost is Weapon Fire HP Skill level 2?

Weapons skills are two parted. There's the base, which is:
0% R
3% SR
6% SSR

And also skill level, which is 0.5% per skill level. So a SR weapon with level 1 is 3.5% more damage (applies only to those of the same element) and a SR with level 2 is 4%.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

-- All of your highest ATK weapon(but of different element) or all weapon of a single element(with are more lower than the first option)

I do think the hgiehst ATK weapons win by far, but damn, i feel like doing 200k at lvl 40 is NOTHING and i should do way more than that.

As you progress through the game past the initial stages, properly skill-leveled up mono-grids (same element) are better by far. But at your stage, probably anything will do.

And 200k per what? Sounds really high for me, for a Rank40 on their first/second event.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Another question(that i forgot to mention)

On a comparaison with eidolons, how big are the weapon skill levels(either character atk+ or HP) if all my weapons are fire(eidolon to compare would be the biggest of them all, Belial)

Like Let's say Weapon Fire HP Skill level 1, how much of a boost is Weapon Fire HP Skill level 2?

Because well ...(Despite that my weapons being of different elements ..... (Because the past events went generous to those ATK weapon (which i have only 2 or 3)

And now, for my (you guess it) next question(which is going to be extremely stupid to all of you.

All of your highest ATK weapon(but of different element) or all weapon of a single element(with are more lower than the first option)

I do think the hgiehst ATK weapons win by far, but damn, i feel like doing 200k at lvl 40 is NOTHING and i should do way more than that.

I'm a newbie enough player, so from newbie to newbie i should say following:
From the begining you should use higher attack weapon/sub eydolon. You need at least 1 copy of your soul's weapon for every soul you should use, stats doesn't matter - only type and element, soul's element is soul's weapon element(actualy does, but use any if you don't have something good). Choose your primal element ASAP and farm this elements weapons first. Do all 6 your dayly raids quests. Collect assault weapons, limitbreak them. If you will have more then one MLB copy - it's good. Level up skills of weapons you should use in your final setup (for example don't invest too much into lvl40 gacha weapons). Each skill is +0.5% attack/hp per lvl. If skill is with + (m assault) add 3% flat bonus, ++ (l assault) - add 6%. SR always have + skills, some SSR have ++. Pride is s assault on 100% hp, but greater bonus on low hp. It means that if you have low base value (from weapons/eydolons), you will get low reward from skill lvl. Do events for MLB SR assault/SSR weapons/SSR eydos even if they're off-element. Someday you may want to make another element's team.
For example, Barong's gun from current event is about 2.4k attack, and it's a lot, so you may (must) use it before you fill grid with your element weapons.
Comparing to Belial's 100% it's not so big bonus, but if you will make grid, full of s assault l20 weapons - it's 100% character damage, and it's not added but multiplied with element modifier from eydolons.
If you want more complex answer - tell, what is your soul/hime/eydolon setup.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm probably doing something wrong, but how does the bonus stats stack? (I do not talk about the debuffs of spells, but rather the eidolon power). I'm at rank 40 and i have a HARD time to solo expert stuff. Now, in those situation, i should get eidolon of the element type i'm using (in this case fire) and those who give more HP%.

Now, to the second question; Does stacking MULTIPLE of the same Eidolon work, or the eidolon power is only unique?

Now for the third question(which kinda goes back to the first question); Is there a limit/maximum of a stats that can be achieved with eidolon?

Since my character are quite low in HP (like 3k or so, 3,9k with a 25% hp eidolon)(which help btw to SURVIVE to ONE(1) of Baron's(50(expert)) AoE lightning. And with the LIMITED heals that fire kamihime have(from what i've seen so far)(water being the top for that) I MUST HAVE Cassiopia to get an extra 1-3 turns(of only 1-3 kamihime alive)

And with that, you probably figure out the last and most obvious question of them all: WTF am i doing wrong?

(Yes, i know, Baron is LIGHT, and my team is 4/5 Fire and the Water healer Kamihime from the start) So that doesn't help to get the damage reduced, but that is my STRONGEST element BY FAR!

SO now here i am...

I think we need your list of kami, elodon and soul