Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
given Atalanta is a thing now, C frame for water isn't gonna be as rare in raids (hopefully). still would agree that cthulhu is a better choice than ryu-oh cause they're covering practically the same stuff give or take a few changes
What the heck are you talking about?

It's Ryu-Oh > Cthulhu
Cthulhus C-Frame is shit and Ryu-Ohs attack and def down doesn't miss than Cthulhus.
Cthulhu just offers a shit def c-frame but Ryu-Oh attack and def down + BP.
BP > Orb eating

What you are saying doesn't make any sense.

Just use Ryu-Oh, snipper and Atlanta --> you reach def cap.
You can't do that with Cthulhu unless you run with Gawain or have one SSR/SR with A or B frame.

Furthermore when we get Wolf Maanaf next year, I would immediately bench Cthulhu/Atlanta.
Ryu-Oh + Wolf Maanaf = 50 def down, 20 attack down and BP.

People just wanted Cthulhu because of her C-frame and you can reach def cap.