Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

-- You were extremely unlucky --

Was I? For example, whaling 1k for Karin was a coinflip success chance back then. Is failing that really "extremely" lucky? And notice that 1k won't get you anywhere for bonus rate up SSR Hime anymore, and this keep getting worse every week.

Now then, imagine just how unlikely it is to get a P2W Eidolon, even with a rate up...
Is it possible? Yeah, it is. But that doesn't make it likely.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Isn't that unfair and disrespectful?

... wait. What? Really?

Let me get this straight. You are insulted that a random person on the internet is branding you as something you arbitrarily are deciding is a bad term. That's... okay. Yeah, sure.
Yes, that is extremely unfair and disrespectful. How dare you get a P2W Eidolon.

So... let me get this straight.

This entire chain happened simply because one person didn't like the term p2w on 100% eidolons.

... In the end what's the stinking difference? If the point is there, there's no need to do anything further. 100+% eidolon, interchangeable with p2w for some other people.

Whoever this unregistered user is... drop the damn argument please. You're getting offended for people who haven't even voiced their feeling of getting offended, and all it's creating is pointless argument.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

So... let me get this straight.

This entire chain happened simply because one person didn't like the term p2w on 100% eidolons.

... In the end what's the stinking difference? If the point is there, there's no need to do anything further. 100+% eidolon, interchangeable with p2w for some other people.

Whoever this unregistered user is... drop the damn argument please. You're getting offended for people who haven't even voiced their feeling of getting offended, and all it's creating is pointless argument.

I got a p2w eidolon ... without paying!! how is that even possible if they are p2w!!

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

So... let me get this straight.

This entire chain happened simply because one person didn't like the term p2w on 100% eidolons.

Not exactly, it started coz multiple people disliked it, but apparently of the usual group, so I was interested in other people's opinion on the matter coz I guessed the usual "exchange of thoughts" wouldn't resolve it like it barely ever did. I guess that wasn't a pleasant thing to have the forum occupied with (or just popcorn value to some).
Slashley never seems to accept our opinion - no matter how much we try to prove our point - on something that we disagree. But hey, that is vice-versa since we don't accept his opinion just as much. That may be due to us perceiving his thoughts silly, but that again probably holds true on his side. And hence, I thought I'd ask the rest of the people in here, but apparently to no avail.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

... In the end what's the stinking difference? If the point is there, there's no need to do anything further. 100+% eidolon, interchangeable with p2w for some other people.

The point is that this terminology gives a false impression on 100% eidos that they are exclusive for those throwing money at the game. I at the very least, wouldn't give a damn if he called them OP eidos, insert element here Belial, friend-material eidos, or whatever, but while I get what he's trying to deliver with calling them F2P, it gives the false impression, nevertheless. Again, in my opinion

Hi, noob here. Just want to ask, what do you guys normally do with the excess copies of SSR Weapons and Eidolons? Assuming you have already break-limit to the max, and you don't intend to have more than 1 copy of the max SSR.

I know for weapons, it can be used to level-up weapon skills. But no idea for Eidolons. Seems like a waste to just use them as enhancement materials.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi, noob here. Just want to ask, what do you guys normally do with the excess copies of SSR Weapons and Eidolons? Assuming you have already break-limit to the max, and you don't intend to have more than 1 copy of the max SSR.

I know for weapons, it can be used to level-up weapon skills. But no idea for Eidolons. Seems like a waste to just use them as enhancement materials.

There will be something called eidolon shop implemented soon (expected around August). You will obtain orbs as well from selling your eidos starting from that point & those orbs can be used to buy various stuff like Half Elixirs, Seeds, Books, weapon/eido LB substitutes up to SR rarity (aka bricks), previous raid eidos & a single copy of each Kaiser (pricey af).

As for SSR weapon, I guess you already have the answer.

Originally Posted by nonsensei

There will be something called eidolon shop implemented soon (expected around August). You will obtain orbs as well from selling your eidos starting from that point & those orbs can be used to buy various stuff like Half Elixirs, Seeds, Books, weapon/eido LB substitutes up to SR rarity (aka bricks), previous raid eidos & a single copy of each Kaiser (pricey af).

As for SSR weapon, I guess you already have the answer.

Thank you!!

Ive got 30 regalia saved up from grinding Catastrophes. Right now I've got Mordred, and am 12 Ranks away from Herc. So, should I go ahead and by Mordred a weapon now, and keep grinding to buy one for Herc once I have the SP, or be patient and wait till I get Herc?

Originally Posted by nonsensei

Not exactly, it started coz multiple people disliked it, but apparently of the usual group, so I was interested in other people's opinion on the matter coz I guessed the usual "exchange of thoughts" wouldn't resolve it like it barely ever did. I guess that wasn't a pleasant thing to have the forum occupied with (or just popcorn value to some).
Slashley never seems to accept our opinion - no matter how much we try to prove our point - on something that we disagree. But hey, that is vice-versa since we don't accept his opinion just as much. That may be due to us perceiving his thoughts silly, but that again probably holds true on his side. And hence, I thought I'd ask the rest of the people in here, but apparently to no avail.



The point is that this terminology gives a false impression on 100% eidos that they are exclusive for those throwing money at the game. I at the very least, wouldn't give a damn if he called them OP eidos, insert element here Belial, friend-material eidos, or whatever, but while I get what he's trying to deliver with calling them F2P, it gives the false impression, nevertheless. Again, in my opinion

Where Slashley comes from would have been a statistical standpoint: when you throw in a really good thing into a huge mountain of garbage, all that behind either luck or a paywall, you can't say they're strictly wrong for calling that one thing pay to win. Sure, with luck you too, can pull that one piece of chocolate out of the mountain of shit, but it doesn't excuse the fact that it is just that, one, out of much more, where if you had applied the law of large numbers, and not anecdotes, you would have to spend a huge amount. It is one thing for one person to go "hey, I got this out of a random jewel pull!", but it is another for a sizeable portion of the playerbase to say so.
Tl;dr: if it's good, the rest are shit, and not many get it? Not exactly wrong to call it p2w.

Where the opponents of the term "p2w" on 100% eidolons come from would be that technically, no, because p2w to the opponents describes a situation where the content is accessible ONLY by paying. Which the 100% eidolons are certainly not, considering the random jewel gacha pull of said eidolons is still possible.

Why do I call it pointless? Because at the end of the day, what we're actually arguing over is the semantics of "p2w", not over the actual eidolons themselves. What is my point? As long as we get the idea across that, yes, this is (e.g. Belial) we're talking about, why care about terminology? It's not as if me calling the 100% eidolons p2w eidos means they're actually 120% stronger than actual 100% eidolons

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi, noob here. Just want to ask, what do you guys normally do with the excess copies of SSR Weapons and Eidolons? Assuming you have already break-limit to the max, and you don't intend to have more than 1 copy of the max SSR.

I know for weapons, it can be used to level-up weapon skills. But no idea for Eidolons. Seems like a waste to just use them as enhancement materials.

If you have an extra SSR copy that isn't limit broken, save those for enhancement when 4LB (or 4 star) weapons are a thing. If you have at least 3 extra copies (or 2LB), I'd suggest you simply keep and use those as weapons... except weapons like Adrammelech's bow. I wouldn't even keep the first copy in that case.

Save your eidolons for when eidolon orb store releases in a month. You'll be able to trade in event eidolons, as well as SR and R eidolons for orbs, which you can then use to exchange for past raid eidolons, elixirs, dragon eye shards, SR limit break materials, but most importantly, Kaiser Dragoons

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Where the opponents of the term "p2w" on 100% eidolons come from would be that technically, no, because p2w to the opponents describes a situation where the content is accessible ONLY by paying. Which the 100% eidolons are certainly not, considering the random jewel gacha pull of said eidolons is still possible.

Thanks you for understanding what slashley cant.