Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Hi, noob here. Just want to ask, what do you guys normally do with the excess copies of SSR Weapons and Eidolons? Assuming you have already break-limit to the max, and you don't intend to have more than 1 copy of the max SSR.

I know for weapons, it can be used to level-up weapon skills. But no idea for Eidolons. Seems like a waste to just use them as enhancement materials.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi, noob here. Just want to ask, what do you guys normally do with the excess copies of SSR Weapons and Eidolons? Assuming you have already break-limit to the max, and you don't intend to have more than 1 copy of the max SSR.

I know for weapons, it can be used to level-up weapon skills. But no idea for Eidolons. Seems like a waste to just use them as enhancement materials.

There will be something called eidolon shop implemented soon (expected around August). You will obtain orbs as well from selling your eidos starting from that point & those orbs can be used to buy various stuff like Half Elixirs, Seeds, Books, weapon/eido LB substitutes up to SR rarity (aka bricks), previous raid eidos & a single copy of each Kaiser (pricey af).

As for SSR weapon, I guess you already have the answer.

Originally Posted by nonsensei

There will be something called eidolon shop implemented soon (expected around August). You will obtain orbs as well from selling your eidos starting from that point & those orbs can be used to buy various stuff like Half Elixirs, Seeds, Books, weapon/eido LB substitutes up to SR rarity (aka bricks), previous raid eidos & a single copy of each Kaiser (pricey af).

As for SSR weapon, I guess you already have the answer.

Thank you!!

Ive got 30 regalia saved up from grinding Catastrophes. Right now I've got Mordred, and am 12 Ranks away from Herc. So, should I go ahead and by Mordred a weapon now, and keep grinding to buy one for Herc once I have the SP, or be patient and wait till I get Herc?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ive got 30 regalia saved up from grinding Catastrophes. Right now I've got Mordred, and am 12 Ranks away from Herc. So, should I go ahead and by Mordred a weapon now, and keep grinding to buy one for Herc once I have the SP, or be patient and wait till I get Herc?

Herc is the single most broken soul on KH, so you better save for her... you won't regret it later.

Don't carelessly waste regalia on relic weapons you aren't sure, or very close to sure, that you'll use. Herc axe of course is nice enough to save up for.
But for Mordred? If you're thinking 'oh, I'll get a relic weapon for Mordred just cause I have her, even though I have no plan for what to do with it', then stop right there. Change your thought process right away. On the other hand, if you're looking at Mordred's relic weapons, want what they specifically do, and intend to get actual use out of whichever one you pick, then fair enough, go for it.

If nothing else, regalia can always be used to limit break Herc's axe to crank up its burst effect, buy a different element version of Herc's axe, or for Final Limit Breaking stuff. 10 regalia is one of the components needed to FLB a valid* union event or advent SSR weapon. Of course, how much of a big deal 10 regalia is varies from person to person.

*short version: weapons gain FLB eligibility over time starting from the introduction of Guild Orders and orichalchum in August

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Don't carelessly waste regalia on relic weapons you aren't sure, or very close to sure, that you'll use. Herc axe of course is nice enough to save up for.
But for Mordred? If you're thinking 'oh, I'll get a relic weapon for Mordred just cause I have her, even though I have no plan for what to do with it', then stop right there. Change your thought process right away. On the other hand, if you're looking at Mordred's relic weapons, want what they specifically do, and intend to get actual use out of whichever one you pick, then fair enough, go for it.

If nothing else, regalia can always be used to limit break Herc's axe to crank up its burst effect, buy a different element version of Herc's axe, or for Final Limit Breaking stuff. 10 regalia is one of the components needed to FLB a valid* union event or advent SSR weapon. Of course, how much of a big deal 10 regalia is varies from person to person.

*short version: weapons gain FLB eligibility over time starting from the introduction of Guild Orders and orichalchum in August

Thanks,

The thing is, I'm short on weapons right now, using mostly SR. I have some 0* ones with assault and a I 3*ed the axe from the Illu event. It would be nice to replace one of those. I don't know if that counts for "getting it just to get it" or not. Right now, I have a shitton of energy seeds from last raid's gatcha, so I'm farming about 5 regalia a day. If I can continue to do that, I'll probably get the weapon, but it depends on a few things I don't know like: how often does the regalia limit in the materials shop reset, once a week? and, do the weapons get more expensive when you buy more than one, or is it 30 regalia every time? I would probably just get one of Mordred's, since a )8 of that is better than some of the weps I use, but want to max Herc's. If it gets progressively expensive to get weapons, then i definitely want to save.

Originally Posted by nonsensei

Not exactly, it started coz multiple people disliked it, but apparently of the usual group, so I was interested in other people's opinion on the matter coz I guessed the usual "exchange of thoughts" wouldn't resolve it like it barely ever did. I guess that wasn't a pleasant thing to have the forum occupied with (or just popcorn value to some).
Slashley never seems to accept our opinion - no matter how much we try to prove our point - on something that we disagree. But hey, that is vice-versa since we don't accept his opinion just as much. That may be due to us perceiving his thoughts silly, but that again probably holds true on his side. And hence, I thought I'd ask the rest of the people in here, but apparently to no avail.



The point is that this terminology gives a false impression on 100% eidos that they are exclusive for those throwing money at the game. I at the very least, wouldn't give a damn if he called them OP eidos, insert element here Belial, friend-material eidos, or whatever, but while I get what he's trying to deliver with calling them F2P, it gives the false impression, nevertheless. Again, in my opinion

Where Slashley comes from would have been a statistical standpoint: when you throw in a really good thing into a huge mountain of garbage, all that behind either luck or a paywall, you can't say they're strictly wrong for calling that one thing pay to win. Sure, with luck you too, can pull that one piece of chocolate out of the mountain of shit, but it doesn't excuse the fact that it is just that, one, out of much more, where if you had applied the law of large numbers, and not anecdotes, you would have to spend a huge amount. It is one thing for one person to go "hey, I got this out of a random jewel pull!", but it is another for a sizeable portion of the playerbase to say so.
Tl;dr: if it's good, the rest are shit, and not many get it? Not exactly wrong to call it p2w.

Where the opponents of the term "p2w" on 100% eidolons come from would be that technically, no, because p2w to the opponents describes a situation where the content is accessible ONLY by paying. Which the 100% eidolons are certainly not, considering the random jewel gacha pull of said eidolons is still possible.

Why do I call it pointless? Because at the end of the day, what we're actually arguing over is the semantics of "p2w", not over the actual eidolons themselves. What is my point? As long as we get the idea across that, yes, this is (e.g. Belial) we're talking about, why care about terminology? It's not as if me calling the 100% eidolons p2w eidos means they're actually 120% stronger than actual 100% eidolons

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi, noob here. Just want to ask, what do you guys normally do with the excess copies of SSR Weapons and Eidolons? Assuming you have already break-limit to the max, and you don't intend to have more than 1 copy of the max SSR.

I know for weapons, it can be used to level-up weapon skills. But no idea for Eidolons. Seems like a waste to just use them as enhancement materials.

If you have an extra SSR copy that isn't limit broken, save those for enhancement when 4LB (or 4 star) weapons are a thing. If you have at least 3 extra copies (or 2LB), I'd suggest you simply keep and use those as weapons... except weapons like Adrammelech's bow. I wouldn't even keep the first copy in that case.

Save your eidolons for when eidolon orb store releases in a month. You'll be able to trade in event eidolons, as well as SR and R eidolons for orbs, which you can then use to exchange for past raid eidolons, elixirs, dragon eye shards, SR limit break materials, but most importantly, Kaiser Dragoons

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Where the opponents of the term "p2w" on 100% eidolons come from would be that technically, no, because p2w to the opponents describes a situation where the content is accessible ONLY by paying. Which the 100% eidolons are certainly not, considering the random jewel gacha pull of said eidolons is still possible.

Thanks you for understanding what slashley cant.

it honestly depends on how you look at it. the one thing we all agree is that those 100% eidolons are OP as hell.


but looking at the fact that they're practically the best eidolons you can get, let's factor in that two of them aren't here yet, with one (hopefully) arriving the next event, which should be the light one...


that said, among dark, echidna is still the strongest elem atk eidolon you can have right now, capping at 60%... considering i eventually gotten more than enough copies to max her, couldn't that be considered "P2W" since not all copies I gotten were free?

i honestly think this went so far cause a few were so stuck in their beliefs and it clashed more than it should have. but honestly given the nature of how this game is and how things can work, you really do have to have more of an open mind when something is mentioned, even if it eventually gets disproved later on...

there's still quite a lot that can be done with this game, naturally meaning changes can happen, so having one mindset will eventually hit a wall. but if two or more can't come to an agreement with something, then it's best to let it go and just go about your own ways... eventually something will show in one or more people's favor.

besides, while we can know and find out what's the strongest, there's still different ways to get there. the ends don't justify the means. so in the case of eidolons like belial, doesn't matter if you paid for her or not, it just matter that you got her. if you didn't, then oh well. either suck it up and try again or find a different approach