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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Uuh, I still recommend to FIRST focus on maxing one Grid, but I don't think I've ever said to ONLY max one Grid? That'd be sanathlig I'd think, who wanted to complete all events with minimum amount of effort required.
    Hehe, not the same tune you once sang in the past bud.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    And yet, people who input far, far less effort than us can clear stuff just fine. Are they going to be slightly slower without elemental advantage? Yeah, probably. But there are advantages to sticking to a single element. Anyone can build a Grid for every element but having a good team for every element is an entirely different story. A 140% Grid and a team of SRs and maybe a couple of random SSRs with elemental advantage probably won't hold a candle against a 140% Grid and a team of key SSRs from the element you spent 2-4 Miracle Tickets on, even if the Miracle Ticket team doesn't have elemental advantage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    The point is, for those who don't want to spend a ridiculous amount of time on the game - not something I want to do, but hey? - they can focus on just one element and be able to use that on all or at least 5/6 elements. As far as time/effort goes, that's by far optimal, wouldn't you think?
    Pretty clear all your arguments centered around advocating for 1 element regardless of if they'd already maxed 1 grid or not back then.

    And going back to illu, I already said in my first reply that it's situational on your eido grids and what type of MLB eidos you can field in your grid. With the grid I field, I do more damage with an Illu with that extra 5-10% ele↑ as opposed to using any other event eido. You're now parroting the same thing back to me. Good to know I guess.
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    I dunno, I'd say that still falls into the same category of what I said.

    The game is also changing to an annoying direction on DMM. On new Hime, even Dispels work only with Elemental advantage? Really? DMM please, come on now. They're pushing Elemental advantage a bit too hard.
    Quote Originally Posted by VeryVoodoo View Post
    And going back to illu, I already said in my first reply that it's situational on your eido grids and what type of MLB eidos you can field in your grid. With the grid I field, I do more damage with an Illu with that extra 5-10% ele↑ as opposed to using any other event eido. You're now parroting the same thing back to me. Good to know I guess.
    So... you're using your Water team against non-Fire?

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    I'm saying that for me, against fire it does more dmg than with a diff. eido.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeryVoodoo View Post
    I'm saying that for me, against fire it does more dmg than with a diff. eido.
    By how much? And your method of testing?

    I do hope that you're not using the same Eidolons in both tests, as that'd obviously fall in Ilu's favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    By how much? And your method of testing?

    I do hope that you're not using the same Eidolons in both tests, as that'd obviously fall in Ilu's favor.
    Same eidolons in both tests? Do you mean the eido grids? If so the non illu eido would use the standard eido grid of course. Whereas the illu eido uses the MLB water eido grid.
    If you mean same eidos as in the support eidos, that doesn't really matter. Whether it's illu + tiamat/jack/reiki or tiamat + tiamat/jack/reiki, my illu setup does more dmg. Pretty sure it holds true even when I use 100%s as supports.

    Method of testing? I simply see the dmg numbers and compare.
    As for how much, why should I run tests for you? Seems pretty lazy to expect others to do work for you for free. If you pay me at a rate of $30/hr of my time, I'll reconsider then.
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    So Hercules gets the attack relic right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeToPay View Post
    So Hercules gets the attack relic right?
    Basically everyone gets the attack Relic. The effects on the HP one is often better, but unless you have a P2W Eidolon the 30% Elemental is just too much to ignore.

    Except Thunder for Dartagnan. Because Thunder is so damn lacking in debuffs.
    Quote Originally Posted by VeryVoodoo View Post
    As for how much, why should I run tests for you?
    You know, except that you said that you had already ran the tests.
    Last edited by Slashley; 07-22-2018 at 04:39 PM.

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    To someone like you, I might seem like a genius with photographic memory, but I don't actually have photographic memory to remember dmg #s from stuff in the past. I only remember which was higher. To answer specifics other than that, I'd have to run them again. Where would you like to be billed for my hourly rate?
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    Send the bill to Ikki (aka Shade), I'm sure he wouldn't mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Send the bill to Ikki (aka Shade), I'm sure he wouldn't mind.
    why am i being dragged into this XDDD im fine with my reiki and no illu friends thanks
    Shade on KH, fire main.

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