Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

I did say that Herc was one of the exceptions, though.

Herc is single handedly the most broken soul of the entire game, whoever says otherwise is delusional.

Originally Posted by Laventale

Herc is single handedly the most broken soul of the entire game, whoever says otherwise is delusional.

I say so otherwise. Shingen is the other most broken hero.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is Ea good or not?

Short term: Not really.
Long term: Ehhhhh not really.
End game: Yes. As irritating as it is for me to say this since I personally hate Ea, objectively speaking Ea is one of the few units that lets you break dmg cap when your grid is fully decked out. On AW her burst lets her do an additional strike (we call this echo burst) with a burst multiplier of 200%. It's useful when your team can hit burst dmg cap which is actually pretty easy later on for average players with completed grids. And even if you can't hit the cap but are still doing very high dmg anyway, it's an extra hit that still does handsome dmg. So yea, if you do plan to dedicate yourself into end game, just keep her around. But don't hurry on AWing her yet until you've reach that point.

Because Provisional Forest is really fun?

Because Provisional Forest is really fun?

Because Shingen is one soul with both exclusive Ex skills being good

Originally Posted by Bear

-- It's useful when your team can hit burst dmg cap which is actually pretty easy later on for average players with completed grids.--

... how? The damage cap is pretty stupendously high. Hitting it against Ult Disasters (8 Def)? Sure. Hitting it against Union Demons? Sure. Outside of that? ... how?

50% Def Down + 180% Assault + double P2W Eidolon + offensive Relic weapon + elemental advantage + Provisional Forest... all of that isn't anywhere near enough. You'd need 65k base Atk to hit burst cap (currently, hitting 50k is rough for non-whales - 55k with a full FLB grid?). And that's not "easy" since we're talking owning a P2W Eidolon.

... Exceed weapons? All Union events do provide everyone with such. Those give 40% extra, but that's just burst modifier, which is already at 700%. And those also increase the cap by 30%, so you'd need to hit 1.3m damage... I don't see the cap happening.

So, how exactly is it easy to hit burst damage cap for average players later on?

Originally Posted by Slashley

... how? The damage cap is pretty stupendously high. Hitting it against Ult Disasters (8 Def)? Sure. Hitting it against Union Demons? Sure. Outside of that? ... how?

50% Def Down + 180% Assault + double P2W Eidolon + offensive Relic weapon + elemental advantage + Provisional Forest... all of that isn't anywhere near enough. You'd need 65k base Atk to hit burst cap (currently, hitting 50k is rough for non-whales - 55k with a full FLB grid?). And that's not "easy" since we're talking owning a P2W Eidolon.

... Exceed weapons? All Union events do provide everyone with such. Those give 40% extra, but that's just burst modifier, which is already at 700%. And those also increase the cap by 30%, so you'd need to hit 1.3m damage... I don't see the cap happening.

So, how exactly is it easy to hit burst damage cap for average players later on?

Im hitting over 900k with ares on AQ (uriel hitting cap cause uriel), so it will get easier, just get everything you can power wise and you will hit it easily.

Originally Posted by Slashley

... how? The damage cap is pretty stupendously high. Hitting it against Ult Disasters (8 Def)? Sure. Hitting it against Union Demons? Sure. Outside of that? ... how?

50% Def Down + 180% Assault + double P2W Eidolon + offensive Relic weapon + elemental advantage + Provisional Forest... all of that isn't anywhere near enough. You'd need 65k base Atk to hit burst cap (currently, hitting 50k is rough for non-whales - 55k with a full FLB grid?). And that's not "easy" since we're talking owning a P2W Eidolon.

... Exceed weapons? All Union events do provide everyone with such. Those give 40% extra, but that's just burst modifier, which is already at 700%. And those also increase the cap by 30%, so you'd need to hit 1.3m damage... I don't see the cap happening.

So, how exactly is it easy to hit burst damage cap for average players later on?

The cap is only 1m. There are already a number of barely 50k attack players on your side who are bursting close to that with an Adramelech/Tiamat main and event weapon grid. Surely you aren't trying to tell me that a properly invested SSR grid with FLB event weapons (barring Exceed) running PF and some good hime buffs is gonna have trouble hitting that mere 1m cap later on (in less than a few months)?


This is my Dark grid just a bit after the first Dark UE hammer was available, which is around February this year. Team attack power was just around 50k plus/minus. Everything except the 0LB Berith gun and himeless bow are event weapons. You might as well replace that himeless with a proper event assault L as I'm only using it for extra TA. Not too hard to achieve for average player. With the exception of Satan I'm hitting for 1.5M cap each with my team on AQ5. Why am I using 0LB Berith gun? It's because my team is already hitting way above cap so I need to sacrifice a bit of stat to increase cap for more effective dmg.

Here's another one:


Far before Vlad event was even out, makes a better point though since Uriel AW or UE Exceed wasn't even a thing at the time. Still able to do 800~900k burst at the time and one shot Quetz in GO. I didn't have any crit buff or Stinger on my grid. Hell I hadn't even gotten my free Fire Kaiser copy at that time.


So my question to you. How are you not able to do what others are already doing? Stop looking at your feelies/maths and look at reality here.

Originally Posted by Mirage

Because Shingen is one soul with both exclusive Ex skills being good

That's only half the reason. She's the only hero who gets to invest in two Burst dmg master point passive (they are the same thing. But she has two of it.) She easily bursts for as much dmg as SSR himes centered around burst buffing.

TL:dr if you like manly muscle girls, go herc, if you like delicious side boobs and a drinking buddy, go shingen.