Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Well, your Fire team is obviously far stronger than mine (Svarog OP OP, Uriel burst, Mars to replace Heph) so it's not a surprise that you'd do more damage there. Why not make a video of next week's AQ, or some other element?

I think I'm doing vids quite regularly. Can't you use those as comparison?

Originally Posted by nonsensei

I think I'm doing vids quite regularly. Can't you use those as comparison?

Like comparing to your latest video? Against Ult Fire Disaster, you did
564k, 596k, 641k, 616k, 484k + 2104k
818k, 750k, 767k, 897k, 784k + 3495k
While the bottom line is what I did. And my Herc Axe isn't MLB yet since I got Mordred first.

... but that doesn't give much reference, really. That's like saying that my Fire team does less than Ikki's - it's just obvious from to the teamcomp differences.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Like comparing to your latest video? Against Ult Fire Disaster, you did
564k, 596k, 641k, 616k, 484k + 2104k
818k, 750k, 767k, 897k, 784k + 3495k
While the bottom line is what I did. And my Herc Axe isn't MLB yet since I got Mordred first.

... but that doesn't give much reference, really. That's like saying that my Fire team does less than Ikki's - it's just obvious from to the teamcomp differences.

Well, that vid certainly isn't the best example since my water team is an unwanted turtle team. I got Asherah ever since, but she changes way too much in burst output.

But then how the hell are we supposed to show you the difference? Should we recreate your team & make a vid like that? Unfortunately, I don't have Heph, so that's not gonna happen.

EDIT: neither Ammy.

Originally Posted by nonsensei

But then how the hell are we supposed to show you the difference? Should we recreate your team & make a vid like that?

That's an interesting idea.

But uh, you do realize we're pretty much just going to hit for the amount if we use the same Hime? We are all using pretty much the same Eidolons and mostly the weapons with the same weapon skills.

Originally Posted by Slashley

That's an interesting idea.

But uh, you do realize we're pretty much just going to hit for the amount if we use the same Hime? We are all using pretty much the same Eidolons and mostly the weapons with the same weapon skills.

To be honest, I'm just genuinely curious why our standpoints are so different. And as that have led to numerous clash of views, it would be nice to somehow pinpoint what causes it.

EDIT: I just realized, Bear also said similar stuff a few hours ago.

Originally Posted by Mraktar

Hercules's axe + Cybele U = 45% def down, Hastur is overcap.

You do realize that that last 5% def down gives you an overall 10% dmg increase, right?

Originally Posted by Mraktar

Yes, i do, but in some cases changing hime to more damaging one can give you much more damage boost, then this 9% from debuff. Actualy i use -50% def on my wind team (Hastur, Iblis, Hrae), but Kamihime is game of "here is a pile of random stuff+ other pile of event stuff, go and collect something usefull from it" so everyone must find his own optimal setup from aviable resourses. And maximizing damage over everything else may not be optimal idea - surviability is important too, corpse deals no damage. For example. i found that even with 200% wind and 100%+ assault Sol aw is better then Itaqua - yes, i lose about 10% damage, but heal 2700+ 1k regen+ 20% attack down+ dispel is not heal 1k + some damage. But if someone has for example Cybele u, Hastur and Cu Chulain, he may have different oppinion on last hime than me with Hastur as only wind SSR.

The original question:

Originally Posted by FreeToPay

So my lineup now is Hercules/Shingen (later on), Cu Chulainn, awakened Gaia, SSR Cybele, and Oberon. Is it worth replacing Oberon for Titania/whoever in the future?

This guy, judging by saying that he wants to use Shingen later on, obviously wants to go on the offensive side. Not only that, but he also already has the way to defend himself if necessary: Gaia AW.
You are right on that we can't go giving general advice regardless of situation (would be pretty boring if we could), but this case being on hand, my approach seems fitting.

Also.. are we going to keep answering now by editing posts?

Speaking of which.. answering that question @FreeToPay
Yes, after you get Shingen, I'd use Titania AW instead of Oberon & cover for A frame with Ambush if you still don't have Hastur by that point.
As for before you get Shingen.. well, I guess you could EX Ambush as well, but you'd have to throw PF away. That's up to you, probably not too much difference in the end.