Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Right now? Uhh.... not really given that Noel exists.
What does our Tyr get for awakening?
The standard increase in burst multiplier and double/triple attack rates that all awakenings give
Def debuff goes from 10% to 15% (Noel also handles this)
Self-only assault buff gets bigger
Finish Impact gets +35 burst gauge effect attached to it (situational, although I have gotten use out of it from time to time)

For the time being, the eyes are probably better off being reserved for someone else on the awakening list.

In the future (next February or March, around the time of the next anniversary), Tyr gets changes to her awakened form (not the base form) that actually help her a lot.
Her burst gains a side effect of a definite triple attack buff, I think?
Stun Shocker at lv 65 gains the side effect of inflicting 'lock on' status
The assault buff changes to element as well as a +30% increase to soft damage cap
Finish Impact at lv 45 changes from requiring the enemy to be stunned to instead require lock on status. Yes, Tyr is no longer crippled by being restricted to stunned enemies.
Do note the gap from lv 45 to lv 64 in which Finish Impact requires lock on but you can't actually apply it.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Right now? Uhh.... not really given that Noel exists.
What does our Tyr get for awakening?
The standard increase in burst multiplier and double/triple attack rates that all awakenings give
Def debuff goes from 10% to 15% (Noel also handles this)
Self-only assault buff gets bigger
Finish Impact gets +35 burst gauge effect attached to it (situational, although I have gotten use out of it from time to time)

For the time being, the eyes are probably better off being reserved for someone else on the awakening list.

In the future (next February or March, around the time of the next anniversary), Tyr gets changes to her awakened form (not the base form) that actually help her a lot.
Her burst gains a side effect of a definite triple attack buff, I think?
Stun Shocker at lv 65 gains the side effect of inflicting 'lock on' status
The assault buff changes to element as well as a +30% increase to soft damage cap
Finish Impact at lv 45 changes from requiring the enemy to be stunned to instead require lock on status. Yes, Tyr is no longer crippled by being restricted to stunned enemies.
Do note the gap from lv 45 to lv 64 in which Finish Impact requires lock on but you can't actually apply it.

Where can I find said list of future awakenings? I might awaken her if I have no Hime that are on the list.

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Originally Posted by HugMeTender

Where can I find said list of future awakenings? I might awaken her if I have no Hime that are on the list.

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xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?神化覚醒

Gaia -> Tyr -> Thor -> Susanoo -> Svalog -> Titania -> Ares -> Sol -> Hades -> Ea -> Satan (we're here) ->
Uriel -> Odin -> Brahma -> Acala -> (skip 1 month*) -> Michael -> Poseidon -> Metatron -> Marduk -> Raphael ->
Cu Chulainn -> Shiva

*IIRC, there were problems around that time with preparing for the 2nd tower quest event, so they didn't have time/resources for an awakening that month? The real question is do we get that 1 month break for awakenings too or not

Originally Posted by Unregistered

xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?神化覚醒

Gaia -> Tyr -> Thor -> Susanoo -> Svalog -> Titania -> Ares -> Sol -> Hades -> Ea -> Satan (we're here) ->
Uriel -> Odin -> Brahma -> Acala -> (skip 1 month*) -> Michael -> Poseidon -> Metatron -> Marduk -> Raphael ->
Cu Chulainn -> Shiva

*IIRC, there were problems around that time with preparing for the 2nd tower quest event, so they didn't have time/resources for an awakening that month? The real question is do we get that 1 month break for awakenings too or not

Fascinating. So it would seem I have a couple options for teams that I actually use: Poseidon, Brahma, and Tyr. While Thunder is my main element, is water a stronger meta? If so, I might as well save for Poseidon since I'm starting to build up my water team.

In a Guild Order you'll often want to Burst on Stage 3, Stage 5 start, and Stage 5 Rage.

I'm gonna assume that you mean this GO in particular, bcoz that strat will kill you in pretty much any later GO

Originally Posted by Mirage

I'm gonna assume that you mean this GO in particular, bcoz that strat will kill you in pretty much any later GO

I Bursted on the second phase for this Guild Order because I needed to for my particular composition. In general, it's unusual that I've used my Burst every time it was ready in solo encounters.

What is everyone's thoughts on the Thunder Ryu-Oh? Despite only being able to heal a single ally at a time, that's a crazy low cooldown.

Originally Posted by HugMeTender

Fascinating. So it would seem I have a couple options for teams that I actually use: Poseidon, Brahma, and Tyr. While Thunder is my main element, is water a stronger meta? If so, I might as well save for Poseidon since I'm starting to build up my water team.

Water is just well-covered for debuffs & defensive options, making it a reliable element, but no actual nukes and very restricted options to make your team faster (basically only Sarasvati & while she does the job, she isn't amazing).
Thunder's start-off as a playable element was Mammon, but needs Baal(U) to show signs of being actually good, not just passable.

As for AWs.. I find Pussydon's a lackluster. Her new passive mechanic (20% defense up for all allies against drowned enemies) sounds fine at first, but as I mentioned above, water already has the means to defend itself. They just added one more to it. Meh. Same goes to the extended from 2 to 4 turns of 35% fire resist.
Oh, and what about the rest of the upgrades, you ask? Err.. 404 not found.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Right now? Uhh.... not really given that Noel exists.
What does our Tyr get for awakening?
The standard increase in burst multiplier and double/triple attack rates that all awakenings give
Def debuff goes from 10% to 15% (Noel also handles this)
Self-only assault buff gets bigger
Finish Impact gets +35 burst gauge effect attached to it (situational, although I have gotten use out of it from time to time)

For the time being, the eyes are probably better off being reserved for someone else on the awakening list.--

Assuming that you're doing Union Events in a decently powerful Union, then there's no more bottlenecks for Awakening. You can Awakening all your Hime with relative ease. There's no real cost anymore, really.

Also, you shouldn't just gloss over the natural advantages SSRs have over SRs. These ones you mentioned:
1. Notably higher Burst modifier, even more so after Awakening.
2. Notably higher base Atk, even more so after Awakening.
3. Awakening increases combo attacks from 8% and 3% (1.14 attacks per turn) to 10% and 5% (1.2 attacks per turn).

Any of these alone would be worth the Awakening. With all three of these, Awakened Tyr laughs in the face of Noel. Noel is only good for people who don't have Tyr - and because that's almost everyone, Noel is often mentioned.

That's not an assumption I like to make of the questioner without knowing more of his/her situation. I think that it's more responsible to advise from a more reserved perspective and let the listener calculate on their own how aggressive they can get away with being.