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I am a little confused...

as a new / casual player the hero weapon takes a long time to farm, what would be the suggested hero weapon to get for wind?
As a new / casual player, you can ignore the meta discussion going on. The generally recommended hero weapon is Hercules axe. It gives you a 25% def debuff on burst of wep/eido frame which can be pretty handy. Other than that, Hercules is ridiculously good hero with her 5 turns long buffs (leaving you with only 2 turns of unbuffed Herc) & a pretty decent nuke.

Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
If I'm not mistaken, light will eventually reach that state as well with the introduction of the new himes up to Metatron awakening.
Even afterwards.. borken light himes keep getting released.

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What I'd like to call the rocket launcher builds lie within elements like fire, where Hercules works better simply because the dmg output compares better than if you were to run Shingen, and besides E frame 25% def break.
Tbh, taking a look at the end-game wind content, you can basically ignore debuffs. I heard Quetz GO is pretty easy, other than that, Lust, tower boss, Icarus GO, all of them resistant to debuffs, so meh. But again, this is mostly a veteran and/or whale perspective.

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To answer free2pay: Not too much slower, Hercules has a reasonably fast burst gen but the key is that outside of +30 burst on 7t cd skill 2, the rest is RNG. Shingen has a 4t cd +35 burst on skill 1, added with the burst effect of +30 burst, Shingen can sustain multiple bursts in pretty quick succession, while Hercules is fast... for a single burst, if you don't take RNG TA into account.
3t CD. But yeah, you got the main issue with Herc. She's definitely not slow, but wind burst meta can be further optimized by using Shingen.