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Oh, okay, took me a while to find them on the wiki. So they were added on October 15, and their thing is to increase the effect of weapon skills of the corresponding element by 20/25/30/35/40%. So Haggith's light and Aratron's dark.
I don't yet see details on what exactly gets raised by the passive. Which mainly applies to Stinger; would it be the probability, the damage increase, or both? Oh yea, and the phantom weapons' trait of raising atk/HP for their respective type is a skill too.

Very cool passive actually, but the investment is pretty steep (oh, I don't think the 2nd thing they ask for is regalia...). So... it really does depend on what exactly your weapon grid looks like. For light and dark at least you'd probably have a ton of defender, so expect even more HP on top of the assault.
I don't think that they'd beat out Managarmr/Anubis for damage setups?

That said, considering how developed you're expected to be by the time you can get this stuff, it ought to be worth it for people without Managarmr/Anubis. By that, I mean you're required to be at the point of farming these new lv 100 ragnarok raids. Because these things ask for both magna as noted and heavenly treasure lovro vomos. Those heavenly treasure are in turn exchanged from heavenly treasure fragments. These heavenly treasure fragments drop from the lv 100 raids. (the lv 90 raids drop disaster treasure stuff :P)

So, this is basically the latest top end farmable stuff, alongside the new weapons. These new weapons include a dark gun with Pride (L)/Strength (S) (which is combo of Defender (S) and Assault (S)) and a dark arcane that's Defender (L)/Resilience (S) (Assault (S) and Ascension (S) in one). Light gets a staff that's Grace (M) (Defender and Ascension) and Vigorous (M). The other weapons so far are still dual skill, interestingly enough. Light and Dark both get the Assault (L)/Stinger (M) sword. Light also gets a Exceed (L)/Assault (M) glaive.

So going back to Haggith and Aratron. You're probably farming for them because they're the latest new stuff and you're out of stuff to farm. By this point, you're assumed to be a player who's already done with unlocking all the accessory slots on the kamihime you do use. So what other use is there for magna? And lv 100 raids are the latest challenge for players like you.
Nah, my main ele is fire so I dont care about those, it's just it means there will be a fire one so I would need to decide before it comes.

The phantom weapon cant be buffed by those, because they only buff skill with the same attribute (like fire can only buff fire/burning/inferno skill) and phantom weapons dont have

And well, ppl keep starting those raids, and the heavenly treasure + fragments drop a lot (you get 2 fragments just by hitting boss once, and can randomly get rainbow chest with a treasure inside), not to mention there are 2 advents on going at the same time so they are a good way to consume those BP. Also With fire frey joining the gacha line-up, my magna farming is far from over anyway so I wonder are they worth the investment