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    Quote Originally Posted by nut View Post
    And if anyone know how rare is null weapon? Can a f2p casual farm the one they want?
    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    “A”?
    No f2p casual will be able to solo 125m + 25m (x2 in some cases) HP with (sometimes intensely) bullshit mechanics all on their own. It’s more can you + a lot of other people clear it. Dead hrags are a thing in DMM, and given the tower performance here I suspect even more dead hrags will be in taco.

    The null weapon drop rate hasn’t been figured out by the DMM community afaik. But if you don’t consistently farm the shit out of hrags (therefore casual), consider any null weapon grid out of your reach.
    Quote Originally Posted by nut View Post
    I mean a f2p farm with other , so it only matter of how hard you farm and to find the not dead hrag one. And does 0* null weapon still work but just lower stat?
    Blunt answer? Before you worry about the 'farming' part, you need to worry about 'actually clearing'. On top of the fact that these weapons are rare as fuck and you can't even control which weapon type you get for drop.

    Looking at nutaku's tower ranking board, only less than 50 players managed to kill Dysnomia at least once, which is quite, for a lack of better word, pathetic. These are the same players who are capable carrying those raids, and you only got less than 50 of them. Fantastic! I think you're all gonna crash and burn in 5 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Blunt answer? Before you worry about the 'farming' part, you need to worry about 'actually clearing'. On top of the fact that these weapons are rare as fuck and you can't even control which weapon type you get for drop.

    Looking at nutaku's tower ranking board, only less than 50 players managed to kill Dysnomia at least once, which is quite, for a lack of better word, pathetic. These are the same players who are capable carrying those raids, and you only got less than 50 of them. Fantastic! I think you're all gonna crash and burn in 5 months.
    DMM players always bringing a positive message on us for some reason
    I didnt kill Dysnomia and im pretty sure I wont crash and burn in 5 months. Btw, did DMM really get such good rankings on their first tower? Or are you comparing our first tower with your later ones?

    And yea im more than prepared to farm hrags without being in those top 50. Thank you sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artista View Post
    DMM players always bringing a positive message on us for some reason
    I didnt kill Dysnomia and im pretty sure I wont crash and burn in 5 months. Btw, did DMM really get such good rankings on their first tower? Or are you comparing our first tower with your later ones?

    And yea im more than prepared to farm hrags without being in those top 50. Thank you sir.
    Why would I use the most recent ranking to make a point? Of course I use the very first tower as reference. Around 900~1k players cleared 15F during Fire Tower at least once. Nutaku doesn't even have a tenth of that.

    And good luck getting a kill without these top rankers carrying... I can assure you that piling 20 dead bodies will not work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Why would I use the most recent ranking to make a point? Of course I use the very first tower as reference. Around 900~1k players cleared 15F during Fire Tower at least once. Nutaku doesn't even have a tenth of that.

    And good luck getting a kill without these top rankers carrying... I can assure you that piling 20 dead bodies will not work.
    As long as you have decent members on your union and there is coordination you can clear them. But hey we talk about it in 5 months and ill show you hrag without any of those 50 carrying me?

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    stupid question about the latest gacha campaign http://twitter.com/Kamihime_Nutaku/s...08526424739840 wasn't the big protest some month ago about the gacha hime drop increased rate to be too low? ( around X5 if I remember correctly) because in this twitter post they say it is over X15.
    Not gonna buy anything that doesn't have a SSR guaranteed, but I'm just curious if we are finally back to the DMM rates...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torkov View Post
    stupid question about the latest gacha campaign http://twitter.com/Kamihime_Nutaku/s...08526424739840 wasn't the big protest some month ago about the gacha hime drop increased rate to be too low? ( around X5 if I remember correctly) because in this twitter post they say it is over X15.
    Not gonna buy anything that doesn't have a SSR guaranteed, but I'm just curious if we are finally back to the DMM rates...
    They increase it for a while now, from Berith I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Why would I use the most recent ranking to make a point? Of course I use the very first tower as reference. Around 900~1k players cleared 15F during Fire Tower at least once. Nutaku doesn't even have a tenth of that.

    And good luck getting a kill without these top rankers carrying... I can assure you that piling 20 dead bodies will not work.
    I think you're assuming the game is as popular in the rest of the world as it was in Japan. It's not and will never be. It's a gatcha hentai RPG, it was set up to be niche from the beginning and will probably never have the player base to get those numbers on the Nutaku version. If the game ever gets to the point where the active player base can't support the content coming out then the game will either die or be nerfed. But they certainly aren't going to sit there and watch players just not interact (or have very negative interactions) with their new raids and events. Not good for business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falcontea View Post
    I think you're assuming the game is as popular in the rest of the world as it was in Japan. It's not and will never be. It's a gatcha hentai RPG, it was set up to be niche from the beginning and will probably never have the player base to get those numbers on the Nutaku version. If the game ever gets to the point where the active player base can't support the content coming out then the game will either die or be nerfed. But they certainly aren't going to sit there and watch players just not interact (or have very negative interactions) with their new raids and events. Not good for business.
    I think you're assuming nutaku is good at running its business or have any say over how DMM likes to balance their game at all. Negative interactions? Feedbacks? They don't care man. Not generating enough revenue? That's fine and all, let it be Aigis 2.0. Let's crash and burn.

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    x255 Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I think you're assuming nutaku is good at running its business or have any say over how DMM likes to balance their game at all. Negative interactions? Feedbacks? They don't care man.
    That's because Nukaku is not "running" it much. They only provide hosting & billing platform (and stated it numerous times before when people complained about "Nutaku is killing/pulling games").

    Its run by "gaijin department of DMM" (most likely about 3 persons with some knowledge of English), which was set up as DMM saw opportunity to syphon a bit of money from overseas market. Thats them "kamihime_nutaku" on Twitter. But that's department is not a priority for them, never been, and they only run western-oriented games as long as they can balance super economical support cost (basically copying JPN content), some resource used on doing gar(b)age quick & cheap translation and covering this with mediocre revenues from Western scroungers (at least comparing to native otaku crowds). If revenue can't cover even ultra-cost saved resource - game given instant kaput.

    Nutaku does not care because they will get their cut on hosting in any case, successful game or not.

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    Hey guy, have someone have "Clear" in colab tab with Asagi ?
    I really reach lv 20 in Asagi but not "Clear" in colab tab

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