Quote Originally Posted by KTA View Post
No, unfortunately, Andromeda is a noob-trap and should never be considered before Hercules. Andromeda is only for people who know what they are doing with an endurance build/need to clear the corresponding GO mission. Refuting this point-by-point:

1. Water CAN reach cap without Hercules, but if you can't hit it now, then it's a moot point. To my knowledge, he doesn't have Cthulu, the source of the remaining C-Frame Defense down. Vohu Manah. Therefore, he's stuck at 35% DEF down right now. Get Hercules. It's better for his future too.
2. He doesn't know how to do Guild Order. If he doesn't improve quickly, he's going to take 8 weeks before he can buy the Orichalcon weapon.
3. He's a new player, he shouldn't be investing in the very niche Andromeda Soul Weapon just for Guild Order when he likely already has trouble just getting Regalia.
4. Hercules doesn't take a very long time. With 30% BG added from the axe and high combo rate up, Hercules tends to be able to solo burst at the start for new players who don't have fast teams.
5. Joan should be unlocked in the appropriate chain of Soul unlocking.

In summary, don't get Andromeda before getting Hercules. The first thing new players need to do is do enough damage to comfortably meet damage checks. It's also more AAB friendly.
I refute it to one by one.
1. He should have Atalanta soon. Atalanta is free raid himes so he should get from ticket and 10% def debuff is small why you need 25% he only need 10% to reach cap and Hercules need time to fill her burst too.

2. Andromeda is best honestly i beat all GO using andromeda and only one of my account that use hercules because i made mistake picking wrong soul weapon that time. Those accounts one shot go mission and i use glass cannon build aka fire team with only amaterasu and svarog.
3. 30 regalia is very small to get. Compare to hercules 120 its 90 regalia shorter

Healing can help you for needed stalling for burst not some reckless run. Stalling is much safer and guaranteed full burst and hp, ability staxking frame etc in GO.

4. Andromed isnt niche hercules is very niche for newbie Hercules can't heal 700 is the maximim damage cap of hercules excep she got cap increase. Newbie prolly only nuke at 300. Its weak tbh. And hercules also bad in aab actually one of the worst unlike Andromeda the best in aab. I have been very long solo full aab water ragna with neutral and only recently can do with hercules and its not comfortable too.

5. I made mistake with joan he has ryu oh he doesn't need joan he can get whatever he need after getting andromeda.

Tl.dr going hercules when still newbie its very bad idea. Hercules charm is only her frame when you have it covered enough its not really Charming. All my accounts do all with andromeda and doinf very decent i don't see reason to go hercules except you want to go acc 5 and need more debuff and offensive. Even with andromeda you can still beat acc 5 if you covered all debuff. I also can one shoot all mission with any soul and I don't really feel any need of hercules. More damage yes but its winmoar regardless you can clear all debuff or not. If you can cover all debuff going shingen also better because lance grid also much better than axe grid and have provisional forest too. I said hercules is noob trap because you don't get anything by opening hercules. No debuff nothing you need tons of regalia (120) to make Hercules looks special and if your opponent is debuff resistant she is useless too unlike Andromeda that is durable in any situation can stall and waiting opponent buff expired as her advantage when hercules debuff will expire if use this strategy. Andromeda also will heal 4800 with union event grails make him the strongest soul in union event except you use paralock thor.