Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

[QUOTE=Slashley;137632]Finding Atalanta is pure RNG. He might find her next Advent, he might find her next year, he might never find her.You do realize that Herc's nuke scales in proportion of your damage, right? So if it's only doing 300k, then it isn't weak - it's probably worth ~2 turns of your damage output. And that's no small thing in GO, since there's often some extremely dangerous enemy that has to die ASAP!


Overall, yes, Andro can help newer players do things they wouldn't be able to do otherwise. But your grammar and reasonings for it are... lacking to put it mildly. Anyway, I still wouldn't recommend Andromeda for newer players - just roll with Cass if you need the healing. Don't get Andromeda until you have the basics down, and Herc's self-buffs are so damn powerful that even without her Relic, she's well worth her place in the "basics" section.

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If you want to kill enemy asap you can stall using andromeda and prepare burst, ability, hp, stacking frame so when the nemesis comes you can one shot it not relies on single weak nukes.

Hercules is for non newbies i won't advise hercules for newbies because Hercules is still glass cannon build. Cassiopeia healing is weak so it will scale bad with ascension and has no resurrection something that's efficient in GO mission compared to mostly useless chaos magic in GO cuz sometime waiting to expire better than rely on long cd chaos magic.

You're overemphasizing Guild Order usage based on a certain power level range. For a larger percentage of overall game time, Cassiopeia is sufficient if you need a healer (or even the better choice); Mirai can afford to put Andromeda off to later.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You're overemphasizing Guild Order usage based on a certain power level range. For a larger percentage of overall game time, Cassiopeia is sufficient if you need a healer (or even the better choice); Mirai can afford to put Andromeda off to later.

Andromeda shines in GO and acc cassiopeia is weak in GO because mostly useless chaos magic and low heal. Those 2 can increase skill and the stats limiter using equipment. When you have acces to orihalcon you have acces to remedy you need to beat anything. You want more assault you can buy SSR with assault, you need more hp or healing you can buy that dual skill ssr weapons. waiting water event to fill all ssr grid will takes 6 months or more. When you can buy it anytime using orihalcon. Getting 800 jewel, books. seeds etc also nice.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Eidolon passive resistance also stacks with itself and on top of everything else, I believe.

Oh, right. Those are basically #1 damage cuts, 10% each. So you only need to stack the rest up to 80% if you run two of them, which I doubt you ever will.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

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Hercules is for non newbies i won't advise hercules for newbies because Hercules is still glass cannon build.--

Hercules is as far from a glass cannon as anything can be. She's probably THE most tankiest thing in the entire game right now?

And Cass heals for 240/t while Andromeda heals for 320/t. Is that more? Yes. But I doubt it'll make or break your GO runs. Also, Andromeda's res is pitiful for anything except the whole "have 7 people survive GO" mission. It has a lot of problems:
1. Resurrected allies get fuck-all HP, which means that they're basically just going to die again.
2. Resurrected allies get thrown to last slot, so if you needed that Hime, FUCK YOU. She's gone now and will only be back once more Hime die. And... again, will have basically no HP so will just die again.
3. While dead or in backrow, their ability cooldowns won't be shortened by turns. So there's a high chance that when you DO get your Hime back, she can't do anything. And then she'll die due to her low HP.

The whole resurrect ability is the ultimate newbie trap. It looks soooooo good on paper, but in reality it's soooooooo daaaaaaaaaamn baaaaaaaaaaaaaad!!

Actually, in the absence of seeing a 100%+ eidolon pop up on the list, I do prefer to run 2x resist eidolons. This mainly applies to stuff you run a lot of in a single day and can't really wait/reroll your way to a 100%+ eidolon, so advents/raids/union events. Granted, the choice doesn't really matter in advents or raids. It's mainly relevant when you're soloing union event demons and the battle length starts getting longer than... say, 25 turns or so? When a 45% eidolon's ability to save you maybe a turn or two just isn't worth it compared to a resist allowing you to stretch at least a few overdrives more.

It's a very different game from you people and your Thor paralysis trains :P

Originally Posted by Slashley

Oh, right. Those are basically #1 damage cuts, 10% each. So you only need to stack the rest up to 80% if you run two of them, which I doubt you ever will.Hercules is as far from a glass cannon as anything can be. She's probably THE most tankiest thing in the entire game right now?

And Cass heals for 240/t while Andromeda heals for 320/t. Is that more? Yes. But I doubt it'll make or break your GO runs. Also, Andromeda's res is pitiful for anything except the whole "have 7 people survive GO" mission. It has a lot of problems:
1. Resurrected allies get fuck-all HP, which means that they're basically just going to die again.
2. Resurrected allies get thrown to last slot, so if you needed that Hime, FUCK YOU. She's gone now and will only be back once more Hime die. And... again, will have basically no HP so will just die again.
3. While dead or in backrow, their ability cooldowns won't be shortened by turns. So there's a high chance that when you DO get your Hime back, she can't do anything. And then she'll die due to her low HP.

The whole resurrect ability is the ultimate newbie trap. It looks soooooo good on paper, but in reality it's soooooooo daaaaaaaaaamn baaaaaaaaaaaaaad!!

it is not about the turn, with ascension it will multiplie with base healing. example cassiopeia with 100 ascension in grid will heal only 2400 when andromeda heal 3600.that is quite steep number.
ressurection help if you weak and often lose important hime it can rotate back fast enough. and 5 alive also exist aside 7 alive and andromeda can help that too. andromeda defense buff also stronger than cassiopeia 20% def buff when you use soul weapon it will become 40% def buff its strong def buff and last 3 turns and can stack too.
When summoning ragna waiting and for help newbies best effort is as raid healer too it will increase the chance better than any other souls.

ah my bad i meant 3200 im bit sleepy. cassiopeia can't use soul weapon too when soul weapon give the strongest buff in skill will make her very weak link too

Why can't y'all behave normally?

Originally Posted by Laventale

Why can't y'all behave normally?

Tell that to tigerninja aka unregistered guy with broken english, disable unregistereds for the time being, force him to register, then ban him and plague eliminated, theres a reason he got banned of every kh discord out there except lucy's which is dead anyways.

Originally Posted by Ikki

Tell that to tigerninja aka unregistered guy with broken english, disable unregistereds for the time being, force him to register, then ban him and plague eliminated, theres a reason he got banned of every kh discord out there except lucy's which is dead anyways.

Yeah, I'm gonna give everyone one more chance. If I see more shit that shouldn't be here (I just warned 2 Registered users about this too), I'm just gonna lock the comments to registered people. Non-users can suck my big ol' peenus weenus for all I care.