All of those you mentioned are easy ways of getting to cap, maxed grid and right himes and you are already getting 1M like nothing, is exceed needed in those cases? yes it's needed, so why is this a discussion again? i said that dolphins are reaching 1m with those setups so they do need and make great use of exceed, you just proved my point, and i didn't mention fire cause that is prob big whale territory, you do need a whale grid and some huge stats to reach cap with himes outside uriel on fire, thats why fire is known to be whale element tho, you could say its a special snowflake, and idk about light cause i hardly play it, idk if nonsensei reaches cap on light or not, but if he doesnt then its not that easy.
Edit: this whole thing was because you said that reaching cap was gigantic whale territory, and thats just false and you know it, so dont drag this any longer.