Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
... do I REALLY need to say that Ults don't count? That's 4 Def when compared to 5, so you have what, 20% extra damage (I can't be arsed to even think the exact number, but it's around an always on Crit). And do I REALLY need to also specify no numbers with Union buffs (+100% Assault and +150% Burst) before somebody suggests those as well? ... although I guess that'd be valid since Union content is serious business...

All the numbers I listed were against 10 Def. And no Union buffs.
I guess exceeds can't be useful for ults, fair enough.
Then how about this:
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Mammon, with no crit and 2 stacks of snatch... crap, there's TAphro here, can't hit burst cap like nothing when TAphro is involved, my bad. I could try this one with Shingen's Bow, but I guess it won't be good either (it can't be nothing, when you need to use bow after all).
A keen eye will see I kinda cheated on that one though.

Well, I could try Ares in future, after Typhoon Spears will be here. Not that I care that much, because Fire UE is in late April.
Anyway, I am not gonna play the "you need to hit burst cap on strict conditions, otherwise exceed is (apparently) not useful". As I've said earlier: with enough time many people will hit burst cap thus making exceeds more useful.

Quote Originally Posted by nut View Post
I want to switch from Herc to Shingen after the next UE, With Shingen and her EX skill I lose 25% def down from Herc's axe and can't use EX slot for ss or ambush, so can a team that can't reach 50% def debuff with kami only run Shingen?
Also would 0 star Hraes worth using as sub to cover the lack of debuff for Shingen?
You need to rethink, what EX skill is for. It's there to fill a hole in your team (be it debuff, utility skill, whatever), not using ability that DMM players use. Use Shingen with SS and see whether it's better than Herc. Use Shingen with her EX skill and see whether it's better than any of those. Adapt to situation, think for yourself, don't force yourself to play how people tell you too.