Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Oh boi. You really live under a rock do you? Shingen's MEX CD error aside (It's 6CD), your information is completely 2018 outdated. Raiko AW reduces her zeal to 7CD. Jupiter's Self BG is 30 now. And she has Self DATA buff from using her Ability nuke. And no mention of Marduk AW's Instant Burst ability giving herself an Enthusiasm buff that gives her 10BG/T for 3T, effectively allowing you to use her burst as a free team 10BG up. And did you just ignore Brahma on purpose?! What about Perkele who starts battle with 50BG and can Self +100BG every 6T? Each and everyone of these are tools that speed up your burst cycle.

Team restriction? Do you even raid? The fact that you are worrying about def down tells me that you either don't do raids or you are just a random leech. As somebody who hosts and MVP majority of his Lv90 Catastrophe / Lv100 Guardian raids, lemme tell you this: You wanna live long? You forget about debuffs. You bring your best dmg dealers or Andro depending on your chosen role, and balance it out with your best survival build using sufficient dmg cut / heals / utilities. Debuffs? That's leecher's job. Not capping debuff isn't gonna kill you if you actually brought the right tools and not suck at manualing. Missing your debuffs when you got nothing else is guaranteed GG. Don't believe me? Go on. Try host a Guardian raid with your prized capped debuff team. See how long you can last and how much dmg you can deal before somebody else join to pick up your corpse.

Yes, you're right, i'm a random leecher because i don't have a lot ssrs, actualy my only full ssr group is water, but with bad grid thanks to event scedule (5 disaster sr for example) and no Shingen so i can only to solo fire ulti or leech90/100 lvl raids. Other teams are even worse (only wind with Frigg Iblis Aether Arianrod and almost full ssr grid with 2 FLB is okay too).

Originally Posted by Mraktar

Yes, you're right, i'm a random leecher because i don't have a lot ssrs, actualy my only full ssr group is water, but with bad grid thanks to event scedule (5 disaster sr for example) and no Shingen so i can only to solo fire ulti or leech90/100 lvl raids. Other teams are even worse (only wind with Frigg Iblis Aether Arianrod and almost full ssr grid with 2 FLB is okay too).

Although my dmm fire has 2 ssrs ( uriel AW and amat) im no damage carry so you know what i do? I use a joan spear and change my himes depending on what i need to survive against content. That already makes me a raid support that can bring in 60% dmg cut for the whole raid. I dont need full SSRs or hyper carries to not be a leech. I contribute to the raid through other means by surviving and giving damage cuts
And yes i do bring debuffs sometimes but they are so redundant i find myself using Joan's 2 MEX more

Oh yea, that reminds me, Joan's def stacking buff. Anybody got numbers on that? I haven't been able to find them on the wiki.

I tried the accessory quest a long time ago (like when I was able to unlock them), and to the surprise of absolutly no one, I was completely crushed. My question is:
-When can i start doing them (i'm at 29K power right now)? Maybe I can right now, but i'm not risking stamina when I need it so much.
-When should I start doing them (IE, when it's really useful for a new player instead of everything else)?

Once you can do AQ4, then you should start doing it daily. With the changes to the drops, the guaranteed SSR drop should make it worthwhile... even though the average SSR is absolute garbage. You'll need the fodder.

As for when is AQ4 doable? Well, a full SR team with a full slvl20 SR Grid should be able to easily handle it. Considering how Energy Release system is out, probably much earlier than that. Try to read up the mechanics as they differ daily for waves 1 and 2, I think there's an old accessory thread for that buried somewhere. Started by sanathlig I think. Once you know the mechanics, just try it out now and then.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Oh yea, that reminds me, Joan's def stacking buff. Anybody got numbers on that? I haven't been able to find them on the wiki.

4% per stack, 30 turns duration, 2 turn cooldown (maximum of 15 stacks possible) = 60% def maximum (unless boosted by CD-down abilities).

I managed to get a brick from the tower event and need some advice what to do with it. I also have 4 orichalcons to flb the union axe or hammer. I can also use the ori to get the axe from the ori shop.

This is how my weapon grid looks like:

All weapons are at skill level 20.

I'm thinking of using the brick to flb the lance as I can't flb the lance normally as I didn't keep enough mats from the Apocalyse advent battle. I didn't know you need that to flb. It doesn't seem there will be a rematch.

For the ori, I'm thinking of using them to flb the hammer as I don't think I need more pride and more attack is always nice.

Originally Posted by Moroboshi

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For the ori, I'm thinking of using them to flb the hammer as I don't think I need more pride and more attack is always nice.

The skill levels are literally the same effect for Pride and Assault. Exactly the same. So the whole "more attack" doesn't apply at all here.

The difference between the Axe and the Hammer is, Axe gets 5% Assault + 18% HP, whileas Hammer gets you 5% Assault + 40% Burst damage + 30% burst damage cap. Honestly the HP would probably better for you since you probably don't struggle with burst damage caps, but overall, it doesn't matter. You'll FLB them all eventually, so the order won't matter much.


As for bricking the Lance... it's not ideal, but... is there a reason you want to commit to Dark? Like Anubis or something? If so, I guess. Again, it's not ideal, but there is no telling when the next Apo reprint comes - if ever. At least not for the next year. There's two more FLBs coming up to Dark (one more Envy) and you have plenty of space for them, so... yeah. Again, if you have a reason to commit to Dark, go for it, I guess.

Originally Posted by Slashley

The skill levels are literally the same effect for Pride and Assault. Exactly the same. So the whole "more attack" doesn't apply at all here.

The difference between the Axe and the Hammer is, Axe gets 5% Assault + 18% HP, whileas Hammer gets you 5% Assault + 40% Burst damage + 30% burst damage cap. Honestly the HP would probably better for you since you probably don't struggle with burst damage caps, but overall, it doesn't matter. You'll FLB them all eventually, so the order won't matter much.


As for bricking the Lance... it's not ideal, but... is there a reason you want to commit to Dark? Like Anubis or something? If so, I guess. Again, it's not ideal, but there is no telling when the next Apo reprint comes - if ever. At least not for the next year. There's two more FLBs coming up to Dark (one more Envy) and you have plenty of space for them, so... yeah. Again, if you have a reason to commit to Dark, go for it, I guess.

Thanks for your reply. Yeah, I main dark as I have Anubis.

Originally Posted by Itoshira

4% per stack, 30 turns duration, 2 turn cooldown (maximum of 15 stacks possible) = 60% def maximum (unless boosted by CD-down abilities).

Thanks! Hmm, it's not bad at what it does. I can see myself using it in some situations where I want my soul to go all in on damage mitigation. I can probably give it a try the next time Lust comes around. As is, I use Joan with Overdrive for that, so why not experiment a bit.