Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by kyc992

Which is 2 expert Lilims, or 50 AP a day for 10 grails.--

I'm not even sure how Expert Grails go since I haven't done any in like six months, but it used to vary WILDLY from event to event. Sometimes it was guaranteed 5, sometimes it was 1-5, sometimes 3-5. Standard has been a pretty solid 1-3 with average of 2 throughout the history of Kamihime though. And since it has a fraction of HP of Expert, it's usually been more Grails per hour than Experts, and sometimes even more Grails per AP. Though especially when Experts are guaranteed 5, stronger players will absolutely want to run those.

Point is, Standards are perfectly fine for Grail farming simply because it requires basically no powerlevel and it's not even bad in terms of AP/Grail and Time/Grail ratio. Because I have no idea if we're talking to a Rank20 player, or Rank50, or Rank 100, or Rank150, we might as well go by the Standard standard.

Originally Posted by Slashley

I'm not even sure how Expert Grails go since I haven't done any in like six months, but it used to vary WILDLY from event to event. Sometimes it was guaranteed 5, sometimes it was 1-5, sometimes 3-5.

I farmed roughly 200-300 in a row this UE, was getting 5 every run since I usually solo them. Did however, accidently sent for support once and had someone take MVP from me in a matter of seconds... that run I only got 3.

I saw the new Jewel gacha with the Unleashed storyhime, and I couldn't resist doing a ten-roll since I have none of them and 12k jewels anyway. Didn't get any of them, but I got Echidna and Azathoth in the one roll, neither of whom I had before.
Do you think I should try once more (everyone except maybe Amon would be good for me), or save the 9k jewels I have left to try for Phantom Diabolos and the new Amon?

Originally Posted by Argo

I saw the new Jewel gacha with the Unleashed storyhime, and I couldn't resist doing a ten-roll since I have none of them and 12k jewels anyway. Didn't get any of them, but I got Echidna and Azathoth in the one roll, neither of whom I had before.
Do you think I should try once more (everyone except maybe Amon would be good for me), or save the 9k jewels I have left to try for Phantom Diabolos and the new Amon?

Rate up is a lie!!! Don’t count on jews!!!

If you want a chance at anything, you need to roll more than one or twice... the rate for that particular spotlight unit might be higher, but the overall ssr rate is still 3% (so you'd still need 3+ times for an average pull). That you got 2 ssr at all is pretty lucky, the next few probably won't be. Also... as the previous poster mentions, the jewel rate up isn't as high (probably 10x?) and isn't reliable at all. I would quit while you're ahead.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Also... as the previous poster mentions, the jewel rate up isn't as high (probably 10x?) and isn't reliable at all. I would quit while you're ahead.

It's absolutely not 10x. It's probably closer to 2x, a rate that was never even used on DMM.

And because Jewels are so completely worthless for Rate Ups in Nutaku, it doesn't really matter when you spend them. The chances of getting a Rate Up is astronomically low. You want to use them now? Go ahead, you won't get the Rate Ups. You want to use them later? Go ahead, you won't get the Rate Up Hime.

Originally Posted by Slashley

It's absolutely not 10x. It's probably closer to 2x, a rate that was never even used on DMM.

And because Jewels are so completely worthless for Rate Ups in Nutaku, it doesn't really matter when you spend them. The chances of getting a Rate Up is astronomically low. You want to use them now? Go ahead, you won't get the Rate Ups. You want to use them later? Go ahead, you won't get the Rate Up Hime.

Wow. You are pretty much saying the probability is 0 to get the rate up SSR.
Dude there is one difference, if you use your jewels now or later. No matter how low the probability is.

There are 2 scenarios:

1. If the KH you want, isn't in the pool yet = the probability is 0 to get her.
2. Your KH is out = You have a small chance to get her.

= if you think it logically ... Why wouldnt you just wait till your target is out?
I mean if you save for 1-2months its okay to wait.

However I wouldn't recommend to save for half a year and then dont get your target because like you said the probability is low.
But on the other hand you can at least try it, maybe you are one of the lucky guys.

Originally Posted by Slashley

It's absolutely not 10x. It's probably closer to 2x, a rate that was never even used on DMM.

And because Jewels are so completely worthless for Rate Ups in Nutaku, it doesn't really matter when you spend them. The chances of getting a Rate Up is astronomically low. You want to use them now? Go ahead, you won't get the Rate Ups. You want to use them later? Go ahead, you won't get the Rate Up Hime.

I have a tendency to get rate-up SRs at least, but oddly enough yeah, most of my SSRs have come to me off-banner. Frey, Atum...I tried for them when they first came out, but I stumbled into them only a bit later on. When I think about it, I think the SSRs that I've actually gotten on rate-up were the limited ones I have, namely Thunder Michael (my rerolled starter), Santa Satan (trying for Christmas Perun and had to keep going), and Dark Amaterasu (trying for Konohana-Sakuya and failed). The latter two were with gold/coins, though. Pretty sure that everything else I have was either a random get or a miracle ticket.