Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Alright. So Svarog for sure next MT. Thanks.

What are the best all-purpose aab teams for dark and light?

I'm thinking go for raw atk up front, maybe a healersin reserve. -def and burst are still usefull, but less so

Herc as soul

Starting 4

Dark: Susanoo, Satan, Nephy, Pluto

Light: Meta, Michael, Frey, Tsuku

Any other ideas?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What are the best all-purpose aab teams for dark and light?

I'm thinking go for raw atk up front, maybe a healersin reserve. -def and burst are still usefull, but less so

Herc as soul

Starting 4

Dark: Susanoo, Satan, Nephy, Pluto

Light: Meta, Michael, Frey, Tsuku

Any other ideas?

Frey is not good for AAB imo. Her abilities require you to time them during rage to be useful, and the CD are very long, so they are wasted if they don't go off at the right time. Almost any other attacker is better for AAB.

If you have Take, she is awesome for AAB. She is guaranteed to burst quickly, unloads insane dmg on burst. If you lvl her to 75, her heal gives 100% dmg cut twice, which is usually enough to keep her alive long enough for 1st ability to activate again for another round of insane burst, all without any user input. I think SSR Artemis is also good for AAB. If your hp is still low, it's actually not a bad idea to bring Sol for AAB - her atk down and heal will help keep you alive. Eros is also not bad to pair with Herc 'cos she gives a lot of buffs, but she is not as offensive as Arty or Take.

I will let others chime in for dark, since I still can't piece together a good functional dark team.

I did some more playing around with Vigoras and Pride weapons. A single Vigoras weapon in a grid really helps to ameliorate that high life assault loss that you take when running 1 (or more) Pride weapons in a grid.

The graph below is over hitpoints and is straight attack multiplier due to assault. It also has the base all maxed large assault weapons (2.44) there to show the base comparison against.




Dejnov

I've asked this before, but I don't remember getting an actual answer, but do you guys use the LB bricks right away, or wait till you have 3 to fully LB? Also while I know you should LB ones that has a good FLB, but what about ones that doesn't but should be getting one later? I have Ares's ax which has assault ++ and barrage when FLB as well as Mars's lance which has assault ++ and defender without FLB. I like the lance more but its FLB isn't out yet to my knowledge. Of the two, which would be better to use my brick on? Only have one brick at the moment.

Originally Posted by ChaoticShinra

I've asked this before, but I don't remember getting an actual answer, but do you guys use the LB bricks right away, or wait till you have 3 to fully LB? Also while I know you should LB ones that has a good FLB, but what about ones that doesn't but should be getting one later? I have Ares's ax which has assault ++ and barrage when FLB as well as Mars's lance which has assault ++ and defender without FLB. I like the lance more but its FLB isn't out yet to my knowledge. Of the two, which would be better to use my brick on? Only have one brick at the moment.

It depends on the end game build for your Main team. For me I know that my Light team will be using a Phantom Lance grid and that Michael's, Tish's, and Lugh's lances are in that grid. I wouldn't brick Tish's lance until the FLB comes out, but I would brick Michael's lance as her FLB is out. If you don't have a clear straight path to your full team, the best advice is to save them until you do.


90% of the time, the best use of a brick is to save it for now...


Dejnov.

Alright. Guess I'll just save mine. Curious, what would a fire lance grid look like? I've started March of this year a few days before the thunder union started so I've missed out on Typhon's lance which I saw was February of the same year. Would it just be filled mainly with the disaster SR lance with Shingen's?

Originally Posted by ChaoticShinra

I've asked this before, but I don't remember getting an actual answer, but do you guys use the LB bricks right away, or wait till you have 3 to fully LB? Also while I know you should LB ones that has a good FLB, but what about ones that doesn't but should be getting one later? I have Ares's ax which has assault ++ and barrage when FLB as well as Mars's lance which has assault ++ and defender without FLB. I like the lance more but its FLB isn't out yet to my knowledge. Of the two, which would be better to use my brick on? Only have one brick at the moment.

It was answered... but eh. Save them until you have enough to FLB. You never know what kind of weapon you'll find in the meantime, after all.

Also, don't FLB crap like Ares' Axe. You want to get FLB stuff that gets triple-skill or double-Assault (that's Assault and Pride in the same weapon).

so er..... is rate up a lie or what...

Did some rerolls for a fire team got about 30 SSRs none of which were Agaliarept....

Originally Posted by Dejnov

I did some more playing around with Vigoras and Pride weapons. A single Vigoras weapon in a grid really helps to ameliorate that high life assault loss that you take when running 1 (or more) Pride weapons in a grid.

The graph below is over hitpoints and is straight attack multiplier due to assault. It also has the base all maxed large assault weapons (2.44) there to show the base comparison against.




Dejnov

Finally MLB Abou and slvl 20 the vigoras weapon (just realized it's an arcane weapon >.>) Did some field tests with vigoras and Abou. The dmg hit I got from the Abou/vigoras combo versus Barong/assault is in line with the calculations, so everything works as expected.

One thing I realized while fighting real battles with vigoras/Abou/pride-like combos - you actually don't want dmg spread out around your party like you normally would, 'cos then everyone is staying around the flat part of the curve where you are losing a little bit of dmg. You want at least one hime to get to the upward sloping part of the curve as soon as possible to maximize dmg, so units that guard like light Athena (who I don't have, so this is all theory) will probably do well. Tish also works pretty well 'cos her abilities reduce %hp. Lugh should be an awesome addition to vigoras/pride combos when she comes out (she might work well with just pride alone now that I think about it.) Also, if you are running Eros, put her barrier up AFTER you get hit instead of before, which is my usual habit.