Quote Originally Posted by AutoCrimson View Post
but but... iirc, simple setup of Satan AW dark Amon and Lu Bu will meet -50%, even w/o SShot from soul
even Thanatos is okay with SShot, not to mention D'ama
Because Kamihime is a game where everyone has every Hime? The only somewhat easy to access Hime from that list is Lu Bu.
People running Samael/SSR Amon or SSR Amon/Awakened Satan won't gain from Vine, true. Nor will people after Herc bursts (due to same frame).

But again... you won't ever bring me to any serious content anyway. Until I find a 55% Elemental Gacha Eidolon (hey man, just 3 more Stars on either Ouro or four copies of Echidna) or Anubis, I really, REALLY don't see a better alternative to Vine.