Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Slashley

Vahagn "only" has a A frame debuff that Fire otherwise has NO access to to (-10% from a R doesn't count, okay?) and at the same time deals 1.65x damage compared to your other Hime (applies 5/8t, and only if at full health). This alone makes Vahagn a complete beast in some content, but she also has 5/8t guaranteed Triple.

Vahagn requires high health to be properly good so isn't ideal for all content, but her debuff is always welcome. Except in debuff immune content. But debuff immune content is stupid.Standard: Tier 1
Elite: Tier 2
Legendary: Tier 3
Upcoming to Nutaku later with absolutely insane costs that you will never farm as a new player so get fucked: Tier 4

Um... SR Hephaestus has -15% A-Frame too. But yeah I see how Vahagn can single-handedly pump out massive amounts of damage, but I'm also not too sure how big the loss of Heph's buff package would be. That's me assuming I never get more SSRs however granted.

Yesh though, the T4s sound like something to pre-plan for. Any list of their details and requirements out there?

Originally Posted by Argo

For fuck's sake...18k jewels and not a single bloody Christmas hime. And the R is the one I want most! Jesus...

Right speaking of that, is her 2nd episode bugged or something? I didn't even so much as put a single level into her and I could already access it.

Originally Posted by Destrica

Um... SR Hephaestus has -15% A-Frame too.

... yeah, okay. I did mean something that is a proper -20%, also while not sucking giant cocks. Heph's other two skills are basically entirely useless, unless paired with Ares (who can actually make use out of the Ability+ due to her multi-hit).

Originally Posted by Destrica

Yesh though, the T4s sound like something to pre-plan for. Any list of their details and requirements out there?

Kitty made a T4 Soul thread which somehow isn't even pinned. There are helpful pictures in there, but let me make my list:

15x Ori (six weeks worth if not buying from Shop)
10x Advent Ragnarok Cores (over one Advent worth, so like 1.2 months per 10 probably, no alternative means)
1500x T2 Cores (farming of these is limited to roughly 54 per day and is drop-luck based, AND is consumed by Regalia farming, have fun!!!)
900x Regalia (farming of these is limited to about 540 per month, have fun!)
3000x Eidolon Orbs
350x Main Story drops (some easy to farm, some slow to farm)
150x T3 Crystals
150+150x T4 Crystals
2+3x Raid book (comes from Phantom Guardian Och, this is the gatekeeper that stops you from amassing everything before T4 Souls are released)
30+20x SR books
20+10x SSR books
1+1x Dragon Eye
900+150x Fangs (drops about 1 per HE, have fun!)
1m+500k Gems
0+500 Soul Points
0+50 Magna
0+50 Treasure

I bolded the biggest problems.
And all of that? Gets you one (1) T4 Soul with one (1) T4 Soul weapon. The latter part with the +x stuff? Yeah, that part is repeatable. So you can get more Soul weapons. Once unlocked, you can use T4 Souls without their signature weapon, but some of them will suck without.

I was 100% convinced that a couple of months later they would nerf those requirements TO THE GROUND BABY (like what was done to SSR Hime Awakening costs), since since that bullshit is basically a death sentence to anyone starting the game. It simply isn't possible to farm. What do you do when you have no hope of reaching the top? Oh yeah, you quit the game. Also, I thought it'd be far too much to farm for whales to care and they'd start quitting in droves too, but... apparently no. T4 Souls have been out for a long time now, and NO CHANGES have been made to this utter bullshit.

This bullshit may not have killed DMM Kamihime (as far as we know), but it WILL kill Nutaku Kamihime. So look forward to that. Let's hope they have the brains to make those requirements me 1/10th in Nutaku, but hah, there's no chance of that happening.

Oh. I forgot that Vahagn's debuff got upgraded at Lvl 55. My mistake there... now to play the long game and slowly (and hopefully) pick up more pieces for a good Fire team.

Sweet mercy though, that is a CRAP ton of valuable materials that would need to be burned up to get even a single T4 Soul. If some of those items aren't made a whole lot more accessible, this is going to be beyond rough to even attempt.

Originally Posted by Destrica

Sweet mercy though, that is a CRAP ton of valuable materials that would need to be burned up to get even a single T4 Soul. If some of those items aren't made a whole lot more accessible, this is going to be beyond rough to even attempt.

T4 requirements are pretty insane, but don't be too intimidated, it doesn't actually require you to be that strong:

• Fang farming is just nuts due to the quantity, but the difficulty isn't that high - tip: hoard any drop rate accessory you get to build a drop team before you go full-throttle fang farming - your drop team can be a rainbow team and just unlock Rs if you struggle with getting enough magnas for accessory slots
• Story mats - honestly a breeze compared to fang farming - they drop in much larger quantities, especially if you use a drop team
• Prison cores get taken out of gemcha and is consumed by hosting ults, but their exchange cost also get lowered later to cushion this a little. Then it's just a matter of doing all 18 standards and 18 experts every day - again, not hard, just tedious grind, welcome to Kamihime
• Regalia - primary source is hosting and sniping ults but consumed by hosting rags/guards. Solo-ing ults shouldn't be a problem after the nerfs and when phantom weapons can be bought from shops, so just more tedious grind
• 50 magna and 50 globe/treasure/vomos/whatever you want to call it - just leech rags and guards, the quantity isn't that bad by KH standards - I mean, you need 60 magnas for a full SSR accessory unlock and 175 globes if you want MLB guardian weapon in one month; you probably want to leech guards aggressively for the HE drops anyway
• 500 pages for the 5 books - probably the only real problem if you're weak - if you do all your other raids though, you should easily have enough to buy 25 pages from the shop even after buying all the valuable stuff like tickets and eyes; if you join raids aggressively or willing to buy less eyes or tickets, you can easily buy 50 pages from the shop - so no more than 10 months if you're active but have zero luck with finding Och raids to tag - that's a long time, yes, but Shingen has always required at least 6 months of play before you can get her, so again, welcome to Kamihime - everything takes a long time, but it can be pretty satisfying when you finally get there
• All the other stuff aren't that bad tbh:
  
  • You can buy ori from the new raid shop if you really struggle with GO, and if you only FLB good weapons, the ori piles up pretty quickly since there're very few instances where it makes sense to buy from ori shop now that epic quests are out
  • Advent demonic cores just requires you to do the event normally and not spend them on draconic eye shards - offset by eyes from new raid shop
  • SR and SSR books - get them from GO, raid events and advents - if you just MLB the core himes, you should be able to slowly accumulate them such that they're not the bottleneck
  • Eido orbs, soul points, crystals and draconic eyes shouldn't be a problem at all - you get those from the above activities

It's a lot of grinding and will take a long long time and requires a little bit of planning, but at least for me, it feels really satisfying when you hit a major milestone, like getting my first soul weapon, first MLB soul weapon, first brick from tower, first FLB weapon etc.

Definitely sounds on point with the planning, grinding and the sense of satisfaction when reached when it's finally accomplished. I only wonder if I'll hold out that long, now.

Looking deeper into that T4 Soul thread, Medea and Asclepius feel like they're the ones that speak to me the most (didn't spot T4 Shingen's details there), so I should probably get ready to grind up for those. Parashurama though... she seems strong, building off where Herc left off from but she feels sadly underwhelming when considering the other T4s' fancy tools. Feels a tad unfortunate really.

is it just me or is kami EN lagging like crazy, its only kami but ive been staring at the black loading screen for way too long, its not my internet connection as only kami is suffering from abysmal loading times.

Seems fine on my end, at least on PC/Laptop.

Originally Posted by Destrica

Right speaking of that, is her 2nd episode bugged or something? I didn't even so much as put a single level into her and I could already access it.

can confirm, just got her from tix, h-episode available right off the bat

yeah i noticed that too lmao

Ok...so I was messing around with energy inheritance and I noticed that if you have a lower soul inherit the abilities of a legendary soul (in my case, Achilles inheriting Herc's abilities), the energy release button disappears. Does this mean that the MP bonus does not roll over when I use energy inheritance?