Thread: Kamihime General Discussion + Q&A

Originally Posted by Slashley

How do you "discover" a Ragnarok raid? If it's not reliable, then we're looking at... 10 months per piece of weapon... 40 months for one LMB weapon...?

Not sure where your math is coming from. I count 30 Regalia per weapon copy, 5 fragments per Regalia (limit 20 Regalia per month if you want to get the best price). That's one weapon copy per 1.5 months. The weapon has stats that are nearly as good as an MLB SR at LB1, so 3 months of farming to get a useful copy you'd actually want to equip, assuming you don't spawn any Ragnaroks or trade at higher prices. That's not ridiculous, assuming you're only farming for the Soul you plan to use most.

As for Charles Blast, that's the option of last resort. You really don't want to be maining D'art unless you have no other option to reach the debuff caps. Also, Charles Blast has an HP buff instead of the elemental attack buff. Do you really want to trade elemental attack for HP?

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Not sure where your math is coming from.--

I don't know where my math was coming from either! 1.5 months per sounds much more logical.

And because of the insane skills on these things, you'll want to use them even at LB0, no? I mean, assuming that you get slvl20, they provide an insane boost even before their own attack reaches admirable levels. Plus the Soul-skill bonus, which vary from useful to amazing.

Originally Posted by Slashley

And because of the insane skills on these things, you'll want to use them even at LB0, no? I mean, assuming that you get slvl20, they provide an insane boost even before their own attack reaches admirable levels. Plus the Soul-skill bonus, which vary from useful to amazing.

If you raise it to SL20, yes, it'll be useful regardless. If all you want is the Soul-skill bonus and the excellent weapon skill bonus, one copy is sufficient. And in fact, getting a weapon for each of your 2-3 most commonly used Souls is probably a good idea before further investing in a single one.

I guess I should start farming these idea cores from Expert Disasters. The problem is... I'm still not sure what element I'm ultimately going to main. I was planning to max out my Wind team's assault and see how it fares in Ragnarok Advents compared to my Water team to help me decide.

So Ragnarok Disasters are 100%? So they're basically 80 AP to host yourself. If you put in four hours of AP daily, you'll get enough pieces for 20 Regalia per month I guess. Plus 30 from founding them. And you can work on multiple elements too, I guess. I wonder if there's a daily limit past the 3 for Experts...

... sounds a bit too good to be true, to be honest. I doubt it's 100%.
The fights themselves are probably pretty tough, Thunder has 15m HP. The rest have even more. For comparison, next Raid event Ragnarok has 9m.

Anyway, rough expected schedule:
Thunder: January
Wind: February (or never since we already had this patch)
Fire: April
The weapons themselves: April (and if I recall right, only Arthur and Dartagnan were available at first?)
Water: May
Light: June
Dark: October?

So, Wind will have a huge head-start from Water. You don't really need to decide anything until May 2018.

Originally Posted by Slashley

So Ragnarok Disasters are 100%? So they're basically 80 AP to host yourself. If you put in four hours of AP daily, you'll get enough pieces for 20 Regalia per month I guess. Plus 30 from founding them. And you can work on multiple elements too, I guess. I wonder if there's a daily limit past the 3 for Experts...

... sounds a bit too good to be true, to be honest. I doubt it's 100%.
The fights themselves are probably pretty tough, Thunder has 15m HP. The rest have even more. For comparison, next Raid event Ragnarok has 9m.

Anyway, rough expected schedule:
Thunder: January
Wind: February (or never since we already had this patch)
Fire: April
The weapons themselves: April (and if I recall right, only Arthur and Dartagnan were available at first?)
Water: May
Light: June
Dark: October?

So, Wind will have a huge head-start from Water. You don't really need to decide anything until May 2018.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, you also need 3 of the higher tier idea cores of the element to open the ragnarok raid. So it will be a ton of farming to get enough of them if you are hosting 1 rag a day.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

If you raise it to SL20, yes, it'll be useful regardless. If all you want is the Soul-skill bonus and the excellent weapon skill bonus, one copy is sufficient. And in fact, getting a weapon for each of your 2-3 most commonly used Souls is probably a good idea before further investing in a single one.

I guess I should start farming these idea cores from Expert Disasters. The problem is... I'm still not sure what element I'm ultimately going to main. I was planning to max out my Wind team's assault and see how it fares in Ragnarok Advents compared to my Water team to help me decide.

I've heard that the drop rate is pretty much the same for the standard and expert disasters, at least for the discoverer and mvp chests. Is there a reason to do the expert disasters? Or do you mean do them in addition to the standard ones?

Originally Posted by ohjel

I've heard that the drop rate is pretty much the same for the standard and expert disasters, at least for the discoverer and mvp chests. Is there a reason to do the expert disasters? Or do you mean do them in addition to the standard ones?

Drop rate of SR weapons is the same, yes. But for idea cores, I was under the impression that Experts drop the upper-tier ones more frequently.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Drop rate of SR weapons is the same, yes. But for idea cores, I'm pretty sure Experts drop the upper-tier ones more frequently.

Ok, thanks. I did not know that.

Also, from the JP wiki I see there will be an exchange option for the higher tier cores. 1 of them costs 3 lower tier cores and 6 of the regalia fragments, 3 times per day. So that is another way to get more cores to grind the raid, although it seems like a pretty bad deal. Although I guess if you are MVP then it will net cost you 13 fragments for a regalia, and also spawn the raid that can get your friends fragments also.

Drop rate of idea cores in the two difficulties needs to be verified with data. I don't see any comment on it in the JP wiki, and the tables list number of chest opportunities and the potential drops inside them, but no data on rates. To date there was no real need to farm large quantities of idea cores in the English version, so I don't think this has been investigated thoroughly.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

I guess I should start farming these idea cores from Expert Disasters. The problem is... I'm still not sure what element I'm ultimately going to main. I was planning to max out my Wind team's assault and see how it fares in Ragnarok Advents compared to my Water team to help me decide.

I will certainly main WATER without any hesitation. This element has pretty much EVERYTHING in term of buff, debuff, healing capacity and damage spike (without relying on any SR Kami). Surely "Snow Raphael" will be the main pivot of that attribute since she's the only SSR Water Kami with a B frame debuff. Add that to her -1 charge turn and her 2T 30% Damage cut, both having only 6CT, how OP can she be?


-The best WATER team I can think of atm is: "Mordred + Dragon King + Cthulu + Aphrodite + SSR Nike"
-With Snow Raphael it would be: "Andromeda + Dragon King + Cthulu + Snow Raphael + SSR Nike" (SSR Nike replaceable with Aphrodite if the boss can activate an affliction ability)
Neverthless, Both team are mostly for SOLO playing but they should be able to hit the debuff's lower limit -50% Atk/Def with 1st team +20% Atk/Def buff (Ex ability is your choice) and 2nd team +40% Atk/Def buff (Ex ability +20% Atk...actually I will go with Mordred's Fortune to ensure that the Debuff actually hits the boss, can't help myself but facepalm everytime it misses...)


If we talk about whose Relic Weapon I will go for first, then it would be Andromeda's Stellar Planet (Extra Large ATK bonus/+40% Def buff)
Anyway wasn't there a thread about that kind of discussion? About what team Kami combination should be best to go for for each element? I think I saw one long ago (well I didn't really care at that time so...) but I don't really seem to find it now.