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  1. #41
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    Unhappy

    Soo... in the first thread it suggested that focusing on light isn't reccomended for beginners and that it's also later mentioned that there's not much SSR Eidolon that gives Light element buff...

    But at this point, i feel like i don't have much options aside from going for Light element. From the First draw, i got sol and 2 (yes 2) moonlight bow (for Artemis), which isn't bad.... in my opinion, so i kept going with it. then later, with the next 10 draw (after doing most of the quests), i got another moonlight bow.... and not another SR kamihime, ( well there's some other SR Eidolon, but that's beside the point). And just earlier today, after completing the third beginner's quest (and got an SR guaranteed ticket) guess what? Another moonlight bow....... (grand total of 4, and no other SR Kamihime)....

    So at this point, should i just keep going and focus on light ? or should i just reroll and hope to get sol and something again ? :/

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    Work with what you have, especially with the first event starting up tomorrow or so. The sort of advice given about 'this element is better than that' assumes that you are in a state where you can make choices. They don't apply early on when what one has to work with amounts to so little.


  2. #42
    u got 2 choices

    1- focus on light, meaning start leveling and raising weapon skill for light weapons. if nutaku follow same event schedule, next event has great light eidolon and weapon to start with, and pull gacha there. i think problem with light is not enough guaranteed or easy obtain Kamihime, not eidolon or weapon.

    2- undecided yet, instead of raising weapon skill on light weapon, just level raw stats on everything and see what happen in future.

    but realistically, that is more of long term goal and whether u choose 1 or 2 u still going to be doing lot of the other for now to get stronger. so i would not worry and just keep raising everything. example, if u have extra R weapon u can use it to skill ur bows now, no need to stock it for different element.

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    elaboration- with sol and artemis u have heals and burst. if u work towards good balance for team. my advise is aim for Mordred for ur first Legendary Soul. Mordred ability raise chance of debuff application, and then first ability applies ATK/DEF debuff and lot of DOT. combined with Sol ATK debuff which stack it, and then Black Propaganda which make boss ougi less often, ur team will take much lesser damage from hard bosses, and Sol can heal for a lot and remove boss buff.

    if u decide to switch elements, Mordred can switch to new element with different weapon, and the combination with Sol is still effective. It does not matter if Sol does not get benefit from new element because her usefulness is atk debuff, heal and dispel boss, not necessary damage. other party member can do damage.

    if u decide to play light for now, u could farm Light Prison for the SR sword for Mordred to use as mainhand for light element, although how long before it drop is up to ur luck. or just wait for light event.
    Last edited by Ringabel; 02-21-2017 at 08:25 PM.

  3. #43
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    What time is the upgrade material SP quest?
    I had encountered it 2 times in a certain time bracket, but ever since i couldn't find that quest again even after visiting it on the same time bracket that i had first encountered :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    What time is the upgrade material SP quest?
    I had encountered it 2 times in a certain time bracket, but ever since i couldn't find that quest again even after visiting it on the same time bracket that i had first encountered :/
    I might be wrong on this but I think it's on sundays only.

  5. #45
    The elemental advantage light and dark have over other elements isn't very great, while combat between light and dark is fairly risky. Due to their mutual destruction mechanics, any advantage one opponent has over the other is magnified, so you should be certain you're the one with the upper hand before engaging.

    I thought I would have to either fall back on my strongest team or try to work with R light weapons and eidolon, to at least take advantage of full burst output. This would really only work with support types, souls whose skillsets augment the rest of the team. With offense types you'd be cutting too much of your your effectiveness by using a lower dps weapon/eidolon combo, and tricky types are a bit too squishy to withstand the pummeling of 145% damage.

  6. #46
    dark and light team always have advantage on player side

    dark character do 148% damage to light enemy, but takes 75% damage from light enemy.
    light character do 148% damage to dark enemy, but takes 75% damage from dark enemy.

    light and dark team have no elemental disadvantage in terms of damage. the only disadvantaged situation is using dark team vs dark enemy, or light team vs light enemy, because debuff application rate has heavy penalty for same element situation.

  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidoru View Post
    I might be wrong on this but I think it's on sundays only.
    And at what time? Nutaku is not exactly informative about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringabel View Post
    u got 2 choices

    1- focus on light, meaning start leveling and raising weapon skill for light weapons. if nutaku follow same event schedule, next event has great light eidolon and weapon to start with, and pull gacha there. i think problem with light is not enough guaranteed or easy obtain Kamihime, not eidolon or weapon.
    Light sucks. Other than Sol never bother with light thingies, because you wont see another light ssr wep/eidolon for the rest of the year. I also guess you didnt know light is considered as the worst element on dmm right now, anyway just get Sol and be done with the light.

    Also, you dont really need to play weak element game against light/dark enemies, just play with your favourite element for them.
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  9. #49
    i reading event list now... after phoenix, next light event is 8 months later ???

    dark has 3 times as many event even though light and dark considered equal element.

    damn, yes, do not go light as focus.

  10. #50
    I haven't looked through the whole wiki, but dark tends toward high dps and light tends toward high damage mitigation. This why even though they have the same elemental advantage and no elemental vulnerability against other elements, a dark team looks superior to a playerbase that only sees the benefit of dps (which includes ALL of them.) It doesn't look like the devs have shown light a lot of development love either, so attempts to build light teams as effective as dark has been hobbled from the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringabel View Post
    dark and light team always have advantage on player side
    Do you understand the implications of the numbers you quoted? +48% damage means any degree of difference in dps between them will be magnified, and the player definitely doesn't "always" have the upper hand. Against bosses the damage-per-hit makes them more dangerous because they have such proportionately high hps that they can eat your dps and tear through your team members one by one.

    -25% damage means the difference is minimized, so disparity between opponents are equalized. A light vs light or dark vs dark combat will take longer but it doesn't disadvantage either because they share the same penalty.
    Last edited by MasterE; 02-22-2017 at 10:49 AM.

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