Thread: [Advent Event] Eidolon from another world - Advent battle vs. Apocalypse

Originally Posted by karragin1

is this true can anyone back it up??

I also don't get why people are having a hard time i spent no money and im already working to my third apoc.. but i cant get an epigraph for my life still so rip soul points

The reason why it's hard is because the event only gives you a little more than a week to grind 215 hearts for a maxed summon. Assuming you get only 1 heart per Expert run on average, this is absolutely impossible to accomplish unless you luckfag and get 1 or 2 as drops. Even if you get one summon as a drop, it's still near impossible to finish break limiting the summon unless you are always spending AP optimally throughout the entire event.

I'd actually like to say that most people aren't even getting one heart per Expert run on average so RIP. It's unrealistic to think anyone could max her out at the moment as a F2P player but I'm assuming that most of the people who are mad at shit drops are mad because shit drops are the reason why we won't be able to max anything.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Due to the event shop scaling with duplicate purchases, a weapon or eidolon drop is far more valuable than a few extra materials. Everyone that tries will be able to get one of each of the SSR weapon and eidolon. After that, it's down to luck.

True, but I just tried standard again, got 7 chests and a heart again..... I mean I got almost nothing on expert, for 11 times in a row, so I rather go for something that is certain, then something uncertain. If you ask me, it is like this. Standard gives you all the materials, while expert gives you maybe more chests, but less valuable materials, for the exchange of getting a chance of getting a good drop. So it either comes down to this.... you go for the certain map (standard), where you get all the materials more frequently, or try to gamble (expert), in hopes of getting something. For me standard is proving more valuable, because till now, I was doing mostly expert, and got nothing. So maybe it is just my bad luck, but I may try some more, and will comment tommorow what I got, so that we can make a comparision.

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Originally Posted by BarbatosZaku

We only obtain Eidolions from events? There are gonna be events where we can obtain SSR Kamihime without jewels and gold?

No SSR Kamihime, but some events do have SR Kamihime as one of the prizes. The first such event will be event #5
(which is also the first raid type event). From looking at the event and SR kamihime lists, it seems that with the exception of the Koihime Musou collaboration, event SR Kamihime are in every raid type event, and are only in raid type events.

Originally Posted by scrubp

I'm assuming that most of the people who are mad at shit drops are mad because shit drops are the reason why we won't be able to max anything.

Why should we reasonably expect to be able to max something from the first event in the first place? That'd be pretty awful balance. The Japanese had a renewal of this event 4 months later. These people should chill and accept that the game was balanced around NOT having maxed items from the first event. The eidolon alone, limit breaked just a single time, will provide a huge stat buff, so there's definitely something to strive for.

Originally Posted by scrubp

The reason why it's hard is because the event only gives you a little more than a week to grind 215 hearts for a maxed summon. Assuming you get only 1 heart per Expert run on average, this is absolutely impossible to accomplish unless you luckfag and get 1 or 2 as drops. Even if you get one summon as a drop, it's still near impossible to finish break limiting the summon unless you are always spending AP optimally throughout the entire event.

I'd actually like to say that most people aren't even getting one heart per Expert run on average so RIP. It's unrealistic to think anyone could max her out at the moment as a F2P player but I'm assuming that most of the people who are mad at shit drops are mad because shit drops are the reason why we won't be able to max anything.

Looking through the japanese wiki and the events.... just realized that we got trolled hard by the devs.....

If you look though the events, the first 6 Advant battle requires much more materials to max the summon, and then afterwards , they decide to decrease the amount required ( see the material required for the more recent advant battles...) the revive/renew of event 3 &4 also have lower amount of materials required.

But for some reason, when they move the game over to the english version, they didnt decrease the material amount required, despite doing that the to newer event for the japanese version.....

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Why should we reasonably expect to be able to max something from the first event in the first place? That'd be pretty awful balance. The Japanese had a renewal of this event 4 months later. These people should chill and accept that the game was balanced around NOT having maxed items from the first event. The eidolon alone, limit breaked just a single time, will provide a huge stat buff, so there's definitely something to strive for.

It's not a matter of balance. How 'strong' the first event unit rarely ever matters and in the case the unit or event is unbalanced, then developers can simply adjust the units parameters or make changes for future events, which as you can see in the post above, they do by reducing the amount needed for future content, which can only imply the struggles of trying to complete these kind of events will most likely be everlasting within the game if they had to reduce it and not increase it.

Regardless, this will only leave a bad impression on the game for some players as completionism and collection are a big part of these games. Only being able to partially complete a event girl/weapon/etc no matter how much time and effort they put in will most likely deter them away but hey, who cares about other people right?

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Why should we reasonably expect to be able to max something from the first event in the first place? That'd be pretty awful balance. The Japanese had a renewal of this event 4 months later. These people should chill and accept that the game was balanced around NOT having maxed items from the first event. The eidolon alone, limit breaked just a single time, will provide a huge stat buff, so there's definitely something to strive for.

While I agree that it shouldn't be easy to get casually, I feel it should at least be feasible for people who just no-life grind the thing during the entire Event to max either the Eidolon or the weapon. The game relies on so much RNG for getting any other components to your squad, it would make more sense balance-wise to allow people who are willing to work for it some modicum of control over their team with Events.

I have two accounts doing the Expert event only every time stamina allows, and I still can't foresee getting more than two copies each of the Eidolon and weapon by the end of this. It's barely different than if I just played a few times a day, which strikes me as peculiar.

Yeh I'm thinking if future events are like this, theres no point playing I have a job, I don't need another....I feel this could be putting far too much strain to play properly on my time

it is a bad day today..... 2 accounts and 10+ runs each on expert.....0 hearts and the last round pop a gold chest.... and it's enhance material.... really?!

Guy's about this Revival Event.
Let's say that I maxed either one of Eidolon or SSR weapons.
or in other Words bought all the Tier rewards for any of them.

now, during Revival can I buy another copy of them!?
or that's it? limited only to 4 copy purchase for Eidolon and 3 for SSR Weapon!?

Holy shit, the SSR Eidolon just dropped from of those fancy rainbow chests on Expert.

Welp, I guess the exchange prices are fair enough after all. If you grind long enough you don't have to buy all four.