Thread: Spading Snatch

Originally Posted by MasterE

Testimonials aren't objective tests, and 'observational study' is rife with cherry picking; both are prone to confirmation bias. I'm going to have to start a new thread to clearly define the objectives and methodology and hopefully cut the spam. You are all sure of your opinions, but they aren't informative even to you.

My main had d'art+too many anzu friends (deteled ALL of them an hour ago)
My alt have sieg, never used snatch before+0 anzu friends
I played since start to "observe" enough and i dont give a damn about your methodology and&or objective things, since my claims were "ALREADY" verified by dmm veterans, who played for more than 9 months, even if im wrong. Anyway it'd be great to see how you explain this despite all that, methodology professor.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

i just got apocalypse from a platinum box in 30 ap quest with 7 stack of snatch maybe it was luck but i want belive that was for the snacth

Yeah, thats the whole point of the matter. And that also reminded me of:

Ram, if it was verified, then show me the data. 'Verified by dmm veterans' only means verified by the ones you cherrypicked to verify what you want to believe. The opinions there, even if they were as unilateral as you claim (you believe there's general consensus,) still aren't an objective test, and no one at discord or here has yet provided factual evidence.

Originally Posted by MasterE

I'm going to have to start a new thread to clearly define the objectives and methodology and hopefully cut the spam.

Can you just skip the comment phase and do the action? We all already debated over this matter at discord before.

Originally Posted by Ramazan

Can you just skip the comment phase and do the action? We all already debated over this matter at discord before.

This thread wasn't intended to open debate, either. The OP outlined the intended test parameters and explained what contributions could be accepted. You can't discuss objective procedure with anecdotal + bandwagon fallacy, appeals to authority/popularity, appeals to emotion. I'm pretty sure whatever debate you claim has gone on was settled by argumentum ad nauseum rather than supporting fact.

Originally Posted by MasterE

This thread wasn't intended to open debate, either. The OP outlined the intended test parameters and explained what contributions could be accepted. You can't discuss objective procedure with anecdotal + bandwagon fallacy, appeals to authority/popularity, appeals to emotion. I'm pretty sure whatever debate you claim has gone on was settled by argumentum ad nauseum rather than supporting fact.

These are the components to professionally judging a research proposal:
Significance: How the findings contribute to the overall body of knowledge and benefit the public. The importance of the question being asked.
Investigator(s): The credentials, experience, and accomplishments of the people proposing the investigation. This predicts likelihood of success.
Innovation: Whether the proposal investigates an unexplored problem, uses and develops novel methods, or attacks the problem from an unexplored angle. The novelty of the proposal.
Approach: Whether the proposal is methodologically sound and doable.
Environment: Whether the investigators have access to the tools, expertise, and/or mentorship they need to carry out their proposal.

A methodologically-sound approach is only one of the criteria for a good research proposal, and it's actually weighed pretty low. Your proposal is methodologically-sound, but lacks significance and innovation. No one cares about how Snatch affects the drop rate of common items from quests. They care about how it affects certain event drops. Snatch might affect both similarly--or it might not. Who knows! Furthermore, there already exists a general consensus that Snatch doesn't make much of a difference. Your contribution would be pinning down exactly what that percentage difference is. You're going to need a lot of power / data for that, which means the study is unlikely to reach a satisfying conclusion. Furthermore, as an investigator you've shown a tendency to ignore constructive criticism, and you haven't displayed any experience or background in statistics, and thus your findings would likely not be accepted by your peers.

For all of these reasons, I rate your proposal as mediocre: unlikely to contribute substantially to the body of knowledge, and likely far more effort than it's worth.

Came someone tell me what this spading is? I've never heard the word used with statistical info. Is it regional jargon or something?

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

For all of these reasons, I rate your proposal as mediocre: unlikely to contribute substantially to the body of knowledge, and likely far more effort than it's worth.

Do I need to tell you again that you aren't a qualified observer? Aside from the heavy bias, your assessment is shot through with more logical fallacies than I can name right now, though if you'd like I can take an inventory for you.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Came someone tell me what this spading is? I've never heard the word used with statistical info. Is it regional jargon or something?

It's not specific to statistics, it's a general gaming term for discovering the game environment and mechanics. Statistical spading isn't my favorite kind, but if no one else has the will to learn the mechanics, I do.

Originally Posted by MasterE

Do I need to tell you again that you aren't a qualified observer? Aside from the heavy bias, your assessment is shot through with more logical fallacies than I can name right now, though if you'd like I can take an inventory for you.

Sure, go ahead.

Originally Posted by MasterE

It's not specific to statistics, it's a general gaming term for discovering the game environment and mechanics. Statistical spading isn't my favorite kind, but if no one else has the will to learn the mechanics, I do.

Thanks. Never heard it with any mix max groups that I've seen though. Must be more specific to some gaming groups you interact with that I don't.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

i just got apocalypse from a platinum box in 30 ap quest with 7 stack of snatch maybe it was luck but i want belive that was for the snacth

Lucky you.
Platinum chests is good and I get one with snatch. But it gives me that shitty silver axe.
But I am bad with random, so I got a lot of elemental tablets from platinum raid's chests...