Thread: Kamihime Project R has had rape content censored in the Nutaku release

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Looking back at the reasoning Nutaku gave, it was a weak statement. Nutaku seems more or less afraid of the SJW ordeal as they haven't touched on content as heavy as this yet. Mangagamer for example has several raped themed games localized like Rance, Euphoria and the upcoming KuroInu and they don't have modifications towards their dialogue to my knowledge. Though with Nutaku's history of censorship with turning small breasts into watermelons, it's not a surprise they'd choose this route.

I think that Nutaku is subject to restrictions and pressures that other eroge publishers are not, or at least not to the same extent. When they talk about restrictions imposed on them by content reviewers and fines for non-compliance, I believe they are telling the truth. I don't believe they are telling the full truth, either because it would be unflattering or because it would welcome the wrath of higher-ups or partners. Other publishers may be similarly holding their cards close to their chests. There's a sort of 'Fight Club' mentality surrounding the issue, and getting useful information is very difficult. I've been repeatedly told, by Nutaku and others, that Nutaku will not be transparent about censorship because it would invite unwanted scrutiny, both by users and their financial partners.

Also useful to remember is that Nutaku is part of MindGeek, which has established content guidelines as one of the biggest porn distributors in the world. If corporate (MindGeek) doesn't sign off on a given game, the game doesn't get released, regardless of Nutaku's sentiments on the matter.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

I think that Nutaku is subject to restrictions and pressures that other eroge publishers are not, or at least not to the same extent. When they talk about restrictions imposed on them by content reviewers and fines for non-compliance, I believe they are telling the truth. I don't believe they are telling the full truth, either because it would be unflattering or because it would welcome the wrath of higher-ups or partners. Other publishers may be similarly holding their cards close to their chests. There's a sort of 'Fight Club' mentality surrounding the issue, and getting useful information is very difficult. I've been repeatedly told, by Nutaku and others, that Nutaku will not be transparent about censorship because it would invite unwanted scrutiny, both by users and their financial partners.

Also useful to remember is that Nutaku is part of MindGeek, which has established content guidelines as one of the biggest porn distributors in the world. If corporate (MindGeek) doesn't sign off on a given game, the game doesn't get released, regardless of Nutaku's sentiments on the matter.

In your estimation, how much of this issue is likely to be caused by MindGeek's oversight over Nutaku? Do you feel that being tied to the Western pornography industry is limiting what the company is allowed to do with its games?

Oh, and thanks for writing that article. It was interesting to read.

Originally Posted by Skulkraken

In your estimation, how much of this issue is likely to be caused by MindGeek's oversight over Nutaku? Do you feel that being tied to the Western pornography industry is limiting what the company is allowed to do with its games?

I'm glad you liked the article.

I definitely feel that Nutaku's ties to the Western porn industry define its entire business. These ties are both Nutaku's strength and its weakness, allowing it to reach a greater audience than it would otherwise, yet giving them less freedom to navigate cultural issues like this.

It's still not clear where MindGeek's content restrictions end and payment processor restrictions begin, and how regional law influences both of these. Nutaku may be forced to use certain payment processors and/or banks that MindGeek uses or that do business in Canada, further limiting their freedom of action. I don't think Nutaku is being fully transparent about what options are open to them and what options are closed, much like a poker player keeping their cards close to their chest.

What I do have is this statement from Nutaku, which I was given permission to quote:

While I appreciate your offer to conduct a formal interview regarding Nutaku’s [position] with [respect to] censorship, this is not exactly an area where it is advisable for us to bring undue amounts of attention to ourselves. Firstly due to the fact that by taking a strong public stance on this issue we invite greater oversight from the powers that be (you can read NutakuDev’s comment to that effect on Harem Battle Club). Secondly, we don’t particularly want Nutaku to be considered synonymous with censorship, regardless of whether we have a choice in it.