Water eidolon friend thread

[CBW]

It relates to team composition and assault skill stacking. Once you have five same-element team members and around +40% assault skill modifier, neutral-element damage with your favored element outpaces the opposite element buff. In addition, your primary team will generally be better balanced (e.g., healing, debuffs) than an improvised opposite-element team.

You can check my DMG multiplier calculator (eidolon buff comparisons tab) to run the numbers on your own team.

I'm intrigued. I cant see formulas on the spreadsheet, but clarifying question.

40% skill x 5 neutral element > 0%(?) skill x 5(?) strong element

Assuming that I filled in the blanks correct, how does it work out for this scenario:

__% skill x 5 neutral element > 20% skill x 4 strong element (This feels like what average players will aim for without rerolling)

If these two factors are multiplicative, I feel it should be something like (1.4)^(4/5)*(1.0)^(1/5)*1.2 = 57-ish%. It takes a similar amount of work to go from 40% to 60% in one element as it does to go from 0% to 20% in all elements.

[sanahtlig]

I'm intrigued. I cant see formulas on the spreadsheet, but clarifying question.

You should be able to see all the formulas. I can see them as an unregistered user. If you want to see highlighted cells and change the grey-boxed values, you'll need to download the spreadsheet.

Your question isn't comparing apples and oranges because you'd need a fully-leveled set of weapons of the off-element for the comparison. In general, your focus element will have the highest level weapons and thus the highest base attack power. My spreadsheet just tells you damage modifiers and assumes the base attack power between each comparison is the same (that you're using the same weapon grid in each case). It's possible to do a comparison with different base attack values, but it'd add complexity to the calculations.

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I added a base attack value factor to the comparison. You can input the average attack values of the 5 members into the grey boxes for each team and explore the simulated differences in damage between different weapon grids.

[vysethevaliant]

I'm looking for more water leads, as well.

I have a fully LB'd Jormungand (Level 80), as well as an LB2 Garuda (Level 70). I'm leading with an LB1 Behemoth now though (Wind/Light/Water ATK +35%), for the event, since her summon ability can cleanse.

Feel free to add me! I've already sent a request to everyone who posted their ID in this thread.

My ID: 6577565