Thread: [Event 06] Advent Battle vs Medusa

Originally Posted by felix

Is it even worth going for Medusa eidolon lb? Dullahan seems much better than Medusa honestly...

Ye i only focused on the weapon and other stuff. I'll only grab one copy for archives and thats it. There are more interesting effect when summoned and passive effect seems really situational. Sanahtlig made some calculation about eidolons so you'll maybe find more detailed info here :

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

1) Those are character ATK buffs, not elemental DMG buffs.
2) Burst streak bonus seems pretty terrible, as it only applies to a small fraction of your overall damage. So you end up with a weaker character attack bonus and a burst streak bonus that doesn't even make up for the 10% character attack you lose.

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Originally Posted by Yolodesu

Ye i only focused on the weapon and other stuff. I'll only grab one copy for archives and thats it. There are more interesting effect when summoned and passive effect seems really situational. Sanahtlig made some calculation about eidolons so you'll maybe find more detailed info here :


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The situational usefulness is fights like this where if the boss doesn't die in 3-4 turns, you're boned. As the fight drags on, the damage contribution from that initial burst gets diluted. If you start the fight with no burst gauge built at all (i.e., Advent Ragnaroks), your sustained DPS will suffer.

i would say dmg > hp and so far we getting those bosses that need to melt asap, raid or whatsoever....also if u can spam the raid event during your union's burst time...heck medusa is awesome~

Actually, after I re-evaluated my Burst calculation I realized the Burst streak bonus is virtually useless. The Burst streak (bonus damage at the end) is only 33% of the total Full Burst damage. +30% of 33% yields a 10% bonus to total Burst damage. That's minuscule. In almost all circumstances you'll get more damage, or very similar damage, out of the +40% character damage / +20% HP bonus. Even in the ideal situation where the Burst is ALL your damage, it's only a 5% advantage! In other words, the developers didn't balance the eidolon buff correctly to do what players expect it to do.

i usually just try ingame

both without debuff/buff
this is medu + apo (25% datk + 20% burst + 30%ddmg)


this is echidna + apo (45%ddmg + 35% ddmg)


i not sure which is better in long run... but most ppl will burst during full debuff/buff while other session is passing normally right?

Originally Posted by Gisborn

i usually just try ingame

both without debuff/buff
this is medu + apo (25% datk + 20% burst + 30%ddmg)


this is echidna + apo (45%ddmg + 35% ddmg)

this just shows dmg of burst streak, as in last of 6 hits of burst. can you provide numbers for Sieg burst+Amon burst+Tsuku burst+Beelz burst+Mephis burst+burst streak on both eidolon setups? Cus to my knowlage, echidna's 45% dmg buff applies to all 6 hits while medusa's applies only to the last one.

Originally Posted by felix

this just shows dmg of burst streak, as in last of 6 hits of burst. can you provide numbers for Sieg burst+Amon burst+Tsuku burst+Beelz burst+Mephis burst+burst streak on both eidolon setups? Cus to my knowlage, echidna's 45% dmg buff applies to all 6 hits while medusa's applies only to the last one.

burst hour just passed.... maybe i try again in next burst hour