Thread: What Soul to Unlock?

Originally Posted by fucka

Can't you read?!
Solomon increases about 20% ability up with her mastery! And you know her assist skill is working for the whole group, right?!

The JP wiki says the bonus from the assist skill is 8%.

Also, every indication I've seen is that assist skills only affect the soul/kamihime that has the skill (a comment on the JP wiki affirms this). Moreover, I tested skill damage just now with Rosenkreutz vs. Mordred (no buffs or debuffs applied) under controlled conditions, and allies of Rosenkreutz did not do more skill damage.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

The JP wiki says the bonus from the assist skill is 8%.

Also, every indication I've seen is that assist skills only affect the soul/kamihime that has the skill (a comment on the JP wiki affirms this). Moreover, I tested skill damage just now with Rosenkreutz vs. Mordred (no buffs or debuffs applied) under controlled conditions, and allies of Rosenkreutz did not do more skill damage.

Should that be reported as a bug, then? The English wiki explicitly says that Assist abilities are supposed to affect the whole team:

Assist (Passive) skills - These are active from level one, and affects the entire party's abilities when the Heroic Spirit is active. These do not increase in strength with level.

Originally Posted by Skulkraken

Should that be reported as a bug, then? The English wiki explicitly says that Assist abilities are supposed to affect the whole team:

The assist skill should provide buff for the active team. There is 1 dark SR, who provides even buff for whole in the sub slot.

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Originally Posted by lightwolf

But what your talking about is at least 9 months to a year in the future. Some people have never even looked at the japanese version wiki. I don't think anyone is saying solomon will never be good. Just that right now she's not as good Overall as the other Souls. I understand what your saying, but right now solomon is not very good especially considering the question that was asked by the original poster.

I also say, solomon is useless, if certain requirements/SSRs are missing. And you don't need to consider her below rank 70. I never said, she has high priority on the unlock-list, because mordred/d'arc/andromeda are more beginnger-friendly.
Soul points won't be a issue, when you play long enough.
If you try to level and use solomon instead of mordred/andro etc, then you do something wrong. The first word I used for her "Endgame soul"
Don't miss the point.

Originally Posted by Skulkraken

Should that be reported as a bug, then? The English wiki explicitly says that Assist abilities are supposed to affect the whole team:

That wiki has known inaccuracies. I would treat it as I would a user blog. My first question would be what evidence / source the wiki entry is based on.

To my knowledge, there is no reliable and comprehensive source of info for this game in English. That's partly why I spend considerable time interpreting what I see on the JP wiki for users here.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

The JP wiki says the bonus from the assist skill is 8%.

Also, every indication I've seen is that assist skills only affect the soul/kamihime that has the skill (a comment on the JP wiki affirms this). Moreover, I tested skill damage just now with Rosenkreutz vs. Mordred (no buffs or debuffs applied) under controlled conditions, and allies of Rosenkreutz did not do more skill damage.

I have checked again.
Unfornately, Rose&solomon's assist only apply to themselves.

Solomonring deals 6 times 0.85x dmg (except type disadvantage/advantage). so with 80% Ability up (through buffs, passive and assist), you almost double its damage.
Using rosenkreuz with EX solomonring is also intresting, because she can hit 11 times in one turn. Something useful for MVP stealing. If there is other SSRs whose ability can hit several times, you have high burst dmg just trough ability. Without those kamis, setting ability up eidolon (Rahab) is less useful, because you only boost your soul (if rose or solomon).

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Originally Posted by sanahtlig

That wiki has known inaccuracies. I would treat it as I would a user blog. My first question would be what evidence / source the wiki entry is based on.

To my knowledge, there is no reliable and comprehensive source of info for this game in English. That's partly why I spend considerable time interpreting what I see on the JP wiki for users here.

I use chinese ressources. They had collected many data and did a lot math.