Thread: What Soul to Unlock?

Originally Posted by felix

As far as i know, kamihime assist skills work on everyone (at least according to the fact that people praise Bastet for her assist "dark character HP up" working, even when shes on the sideline.) Question is whether or not Soul's assist skills work...

Test with Arthur then and record the damage of a specific kamihime and Arthur simultaneously. Arthur's passive attack buff should be significant enough to spot by itself. Two birds with one stone.

Edit: Actually no, these tests would have to be done separately due to the confounding factors.

Originally Posted by jazz154

So in short, Solomon is little less useless than it seems to be when you see her first time but still useless.
I just don't see why would I take her over any other soul.

For standard build and in most cases not.

Mordred and andro are for me must have. They are best for progressing in game facing high difficulty content without op equipments. And all the flames on me, just because I want to show how to use solomon correctly with specific SSRs and why her ability is not as weak as people believe when endgame is reached.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Test with Arthur then and record the damage of a specific kamihime and Arthur simultaneously. Arthur's passive attack buff should be significant enough to spot by itself. Two birds with one stone.

Edit: Actually no, these tests would have to be done separately due to the confounding factors.

You think 5% atk increase is noticeable enough in fluctuating damage numbers? Easiest way would be to wait until Shingen, since increase in burst gauge rise amount should be obvious to see.

[QUOTE=felix;73517]As i stated in post #30, i acknowledge your points and i agree that Solomon is capable of dealing massive damage in right situation. I also stated that me, liking Arthur or any other soul over Solomon is my PERSONAL OPINION. I just dont like such a narrow specialization of Solomon, i'd rather have someone who can benefit everyone, even if marginally, but again, its PERSONAL PREFERENCE. Ok, fine, she can do deeps up her ass, i just dont like her, its personal opinion, im not saying you have to agree with me. You like her? You play her. I dont like her, im not gonna play her. I did withdraw my statement that her skills are shit, so there was no point in posting all those math calculations, at that point they are not proving anything, simply because everything is already proven.

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Dear Felix,
You were already attacking me verbally in your very first post due to your hatred to her, because I wrote she isn't as weak as a lot people suggested.

I have no personal favor for any specific soul. My order of unlocking is andro -> mordred -> ??? , because I didn't reroll for Sol. If I got Sol, I may start with mordred first. Next one only depends on what I get from gasha.
Sooner or later u would like unlock all souls due to their ex and mastery bonus.

I really consider to use Solomon+Rosen ex if I could get bramha in the future. the strongest ability hitter ingame dealing 600k+ in one turn... no other soul fits the play style better.

Originally Posted by fucka

Dear Felix,
You were already attacking me verbally in your very first post due to your hatred to her, because I wrote she isn't as weak as a lot people suggested.

Ok, to my defense, i never expected, that expressing my opinion (even if negative) toward fictional character would be considered by anyone as "verbally attacking" real person who is reading it, but whatever. It is never my intention to start a shitwar("fire only if fired upon" is my policy here), so i do apologize if i indeed offended you.

Originally Posted by felix

You think 5% atk increase is noticeable enough in fluctuating damage numbers? Easiest way would be to wait until Shingen, since increase in burst gauge rise amount should be obvious to see.

Originally Posted by felix

Ok, to my defense, i never expected, that expressing my opinion (even if negative) toward fictional character would be considered by anyone as "verbally attacking" real person who is reading it, but whatever. It is never my intention to start a shitwar("fire only if fired upon" is my policy here), so i do apologize if i indeed offended you.

about time to end the shitwar.
I think, we all are here, because we want to provide support and help to others, we actually follow the same goal.

To "assist skills" of soul
Chinese translation describes clearly "only to herself" for the first passive and 2nd passive always linked to her 3rd active ability. So Not for the group either.
If they weren't sure, they wouldn't add "only to herself"

ok, found a recent video of party with Shingen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUZplSCkJGQ Shingen's assist is increasing burst gauge rise amount, but here we can clearly see that other hime only get 10 burst points per hit while Shingen herself in first round gained 25 for double attack, so 12.5 per attack. Considering thats video from april this year, its safe to assume that devs dont give a fk that assist skills for Souls dont affect other party members.

Originally Posted by fucka

For standard build and in most cases not.

Mordred and andro are for me must have. They are best for progressing in game facing high difficulty content without op equipments. And all the flames on me, just because I want to show how to use solomon correctly with specific SSRs and why her ability is not as weak as people believe when endgame is reached.

Specific circumstances... I am grateful that you show us that she can be used when you met requirements for her. I am sure that people that love Solomon will be happy to know this.

But for me it doesn't really change order of how useful souls are. Putting aside Mordred and Andromeda. Joan can mitigate damage from enemy burst, have regen and can debuff enemy. Siegfried have crazy burst damage on stunned enemies. D'Art have sniper shoot and... well... snatch... Surely for some people it's a plus. Arthur have 0-> 100 burst, it's helpful to use it on first to get that extra 10% for everyone else and with it it's easier to get full burst.

I am not sure how Morgana and Hercules will fare, but Shingen is also better choice, with her boost 200% to burst damage she will be fun.

So I don't see any reason (except if like how she looks) to go out of your way to unlock her. Will I unlock her? Only if I have spare soul points.

Originally Posted by felix

You think 5% atk increase is noticeable enough in fluctuating damage numbers? Easiest way would be to wait until Shingen, since increase in burst gauge rise amount should be obvious to see.

Originally Posted by felix

Ok, to my defense, i never expected, that expressing my opinion (even if negative) toward fictional character would be considered by anyone as "verbally attacking" real person who is reading it, but whatever. It is never my intention to start a shitwar("fire only if fired upon" is my policy here), so i do apologize if i indeed offended you.

Originally Posted by felix

ok, found a recent video of party with Shingen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUZplSCkJGQ Shingen's assist is increasing burst gauge rise amount, but here we can clearly see that other hime only get 10 burst points per hit while Shingen herself in first round gained 25 for double attack, so 12.5 per attack. Considering thats video from april this year, its safe to assume that devs dont give a fk that assist skills for Souls dont affect other party members.

correct. The English wiki seems to be wrong. I got answers that all assist skills only apply to herself (both soul and kami). Only exception is that type specific hp up.

Originally Posted by fucka

correct. The English wiki seems to be wrong. I got answers that all assist skills only apply to herself (both soul and kami). Only exception is that type specific hp up.

Yeah, I told you that English wiki isn't a reliable source of info--this isn't the first error I've seen. It was an English wiki of a Japanese language game that hasn't been updated since June or so of last year, so not surprising that it didn't get enough traffic / attention to fix errors. But thanks for verifying.

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Originally Posted by jazz154

So I don't see any reason (except if like how she looks) to go out of your way to unlock her. Will I unlock her? Only if I have spare soul points.

I'll soon have 5/7 legendaries unlocked, so that looks to be soon.