Thread: Intermediate tips?

Originally Posted by Naes

see i thought only the weapon on the soul gave a skill (assumed it was the same as eidolons primary one gives passive) , so the rest of the weapons would probably just be stat buffs. thats how i worked it out, but yea, apparently all the weapons equipped give the skill, and having a full page means you'd wreck with that color.
these are the things id imagine should go into a pinned faq. this, a good little roadmap for starters, how things work, little things the game doesnt show.

the souls weapon basically determines its element and the amount of burst damage it does. i think having a full grid of fully upgraded assault weapons gives between 130%-160% extra damage

Originally Posted by Lag

Wait, really? I also just use whatever as long as it gives higher stats. I just use autosort for weapons and eidolon with the element matching my team.
Learn something new everyday.
I never really had any issues before tho. Is having a full grid of the same element that much better than raw stats?

Go the character tab and click the 'skill' bubble on the hime. Those are what skills you're getting from your weapons. If it's not 10 total, then you're most likely losing potential skills.

For some content, the sheer amount of raw stats you get from weapons, eidolon and hime themselves with the addition of elemental bonus against the enemy may be enough, but that pathway is not recommended in this case. Since he's new and his SSR weapons will unlikely be break limited any soon since they're gacha.

With a basic set up of say something like 1 SSR weapon and 9 SR weapons, you can easily get over 80% assault from just getting each to sLv 10 and even further with more SSRs and sLv. Though in your case, I see 3 defender weapons, 2 of which I would honestly had not bothered to level at all.

Try playing with the calculators in my Toolbox for a while. That'll give you a sense of how to optimize your teams.

I went and gave it a try. It seems I have exactlly 10 SR/SSR water weapons to fill the whole grid, but most of them are level 1 and a lot aren't limit broken.


I guess It'd have to max them all out first before I could swtch from using just random raw stats? That'll take forever.


Does this matter if it's only in the sub weapon grid?

I've only skill upgraded my most strongest weapons that will go in the main slot depending on events.

Yes it matters. All weapon skills apply. The only thing that matters for your main weapon is deciding your soul's element and burst multiplier.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Yes it matters. All weapon skills apply. The only thing that matters for your main weapon is deciding your soul's element and burst multiplier.

Damn, this is going to take insane work then. Thanks for the info!

Originally Posted by Lag

Damn, this is going to take insane work then. Thanks for the info!

i agree, with both points, a lot of work AND i weep for my inventory space, but i have a little direction now.

and what about non-assault ssr's vs assault sr's , since in this thread a guy recommended a wind team and chu chulains spear is defender.

and yea, skill bubble says attack up + x2 and then attack up beneath it. too bad it doesnt say, attack up 10% etc but i get it mostly, stack up on attacks, level/skill up them, with a color (wind/light) and with that get better at other elements. there seems to be slight inconsistency to skilling up though.

and that calculator spreadsheet, no idea what im looking to do so :1
oh damn, getting a second kama is double cost? not sure i can burstmax that then.

defender weapons are fine to use for your soul's weapon as long as they are SSR. what is most important regarding a soul's weapon is the element and the rarity

Originally Posted by Naes

and that calculator spreadsheet, no idea what im looking to do so :1

You simulate different scenarios and see what results in the highest damage output. Try different combinations of eidolons, compare an off-element SSR to an SR assault weapon at various levels and assault skill levels, etc. Explore for yourself rather than rely on general advice from others that may not even be applicable to your current situation. My advice to clear Ragnaroks might not be helpful to someone who's trying to clear Experts with low attack power and assault skill!

well the minute statistics don't bother me enough to learn that mess, i would rather rely on general advice from people, ive already upgraded from standard to expert for the event through a couple changes i made, it has helped, looking at a spreadsheet of endless numbers doesnt teach me how they interact or the direction of eidolons and weapons that i dont currently have. What i should try to input so far my weapons and eidolons are rather straightforward after the thread advice from people, i have two assault water weapons, slap them in where they weren't before, 10/20% more damage, let me clear expert a few times, where i couldn't before.

i probably wont touch the toolbox until i've got the rest down, to micromanage and perfect things, toolbox spreadsheet is intimidating :P. and its not a learning tool, some people might be able to learn from it, but people learn in different ways, poked it before i even posted and couldn't wrap my head around it :P. its awesome that your'e proud of it though. But its experience vs statistics and percentages to me. They both hold a place. exploring and learning for myself with a spreadsheet aint as fun is all :<

yay for people and the human element and thankyou threadlings regardless! (also holy crap this captcha expires fast)