Help on improving team for advance content

[darkace51]

I have been playing kamihime for a while and for the first few months it seemed that I was making steady progress on my team however for the last dozen or so event it seemed like my team had hit a brick wall in terms of progress. My strongest team which is dark seems to be on par with any one of my other significantly worst team when playing off-element. So my question is how do I improve my team to be able to consistently do these off-element events (advent ragnarok) without problems?

I attached my team and grids below. All the weapons are MLB except the lucifer sword which is only 1 star. All the SSR weapons are skill 20 except the lucifer sword which is skill 10. The SR weapons are also skill 10. Also all weapons should be max level meaning 125 for the MLB SSR weapons except the newest one which is lvl 100, 85 for the SR weapons except for the newest lance which is 60, and 75 for the lucifer sword.

Any suggestions for improving my team would help especially from those who had knowledge on the DMM version and what future progress would look like.

[sanahtlig]

What debuffs are you running? I only see one source of DEF down. If you don't have any other sources of ATK and DEF down, that'll be why you're struggling. You should probably run Joan with Sniper Shot, unless you're packing other Dark kamihime that can offer the missing skills you need. Unfortunately, that EX slot is probably going to be needed for Black Propaganda and situational skills on a regular basis. D'art is another option, which will at least give you full-time access to Sniper Shot.

I assume all those SR weapons are Assault skill? Maxing the assault skill on all your weapons will marginally increase your damage. But mostly, your issue is probably that you're lacking debuffs. Also, running Echidna is likely mildly hurting you as well, unless you got her to at least LB1.

[darkace51]

What debuffs are you running? I only see one source of DEF down. If you don't have any other sources of ATK and DEF down, that'll be why you're struggling. You should probably run Joan with Sniper Shot, unless you're packing other Dark kamihime that can offer the missing skills you need. Unfortunately, that EX slot is probably going to be needed for Black Propaganda and situational skills on a regular basis.

Yeah I kinda noticed that. I used to run Mordred with sniper shot instead of Andromeda but I noticed that I lacked the sustain from healing which made it a lot more difficult than without the debuff. I did try Joan with sniper shot too but that fared much worse than just using Andromeda or Mordred with my dark team.

The only other dark hime I have are Tsukiyomi and Astaroth. I was hoping I didn't to save up those jewels to try and roll for some debuff kamihime than. Trying to get Hades did not end well last time.

[Aidoru]

Seeing has how you have the scythe, I would assume you have Dullahan? Use her as a main instead of Echidna or remove Pheonix.

While you have a lot of firepower, your team lacks utilities, which will heavily rely on your soul. The problem here is you still need a healer.

What other himes do you have?

[bigblackcock]

Yeah I kinda noticed that. I used to run Mordred with sniper shot instead of Andromeda but I noticed that I lacked the sustain from healing which made it a lot more difficult than without the debuff. I did try Joan with sniper shot too but that fared much worse than just using Andromeda or Mordred with my dark team.

The only other dark hime I have are Tsukiyomi and Astaroth. I was hoping I didn't to save up those jewels to try and roll for some debuff kamihime than. Trying to get Hades did not end well last time.

why to use sniper shot with mordred? it's the same frame as mordred debuff (although mordred is much weaker)
as you have satan to for A frame defense debuff, i think arc's attack debuff will be nicer as extra skill with her.
anyway, you're using about the same team as me, you should aim for osiris as she can heal (about 1100 HP) it can be helpful to survive a bit

[sanahtlig]

I'd recommend aiming for these two SR kamihime, which you should be able to obtain without whaling (one from an event that's coming soon, the other from Gatcha):
http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--...81%8B%EF%BC%BD
http://神姫プロジェクト.攻略wiki.com/index.php...83%86%E3%83%97

One of them provides an attack debuff, while the other provides a type B ATK/DEF debuff. Sub one or both of them in for your current SRs. That'd let you stick with Andromeda for healing.

[Naes]

I'd recommend aiming for these two SR kamihime, which you should be able to obtain without whaling (one from an event that's coming soon, the other from Gatcha):

i get being able to aim for the one from the event, but theres no real way to aim for the one in the gacha is there?

[Slashley]

+99 Phoenix? Unless you're specifically looking for HP, ouch.

Seeing has how you have the scythe, I would assume you have Dullahan? Use her as a main instead of Echidna or remove Pheonix. --

Character atk instead of elemental atk Eidolon when he has full level 10-20 skill weapons? Apo or Echidna would both work better, no?

But yes, swapping to Apo and dropping Phoenix and Echidna should provide a minor boost.

There's already two high damage SSRs with basically-SSR-Beelz. As what others have said, all that is missing is B type debuffs and sustain, either in heals and/or A type -Atk down. It would be nice if you could use your Soul for that purpose, but sadly, for advanced content that's pretty much limited to Mordred only. Using Joan/Dart/Andromeda with Mordred's debuff might get you far, but not necessarily through everything. I'm guessing Mordred with Joan's -20% Atk A debuff would be the best for you, as is. That'd net you -30% Atk -25% Def, which is okay.

It looks like the options are quite limited there when it comes to Dark... Osiris coming out in one month would have heals, but good luck with that as it's SSR. And of course, Sol is completely broken and tends to solve all your problems on any team, but again, SSR. Darkness Amaterasu is coming out in ~two months and has Sniper Shot of her own, not to mention that she has Mordred's debuff too, which does solve all of your problems as it allows you to use Andromeda(/Cass for Dispel) for heals. But again, SSR! At least there's Nyarlotep in one~two weeks who'd have Atk -15% A debuff, who is SR.

[Unregistered]

why to use sniper shot with mordred? it's the same frame as mordred debuff (although mordred is much weaker)
as you have satan to for A frame defense debuff, i think arc's attack debuff will be nicer as extra skill with her.
anyway, you're using about the same team as me, you should aim for osiris as she can heal (about 1100 HP) it can be helpful to survive a bit

Oh you're right. I never noticed since I almost never use Mordred's first skill for its debuff effect. I'll try to Mordred with Arc's attack debuff than thanks. I am currently aiming for her but gatcha is unreliable, so I guess I need to wait till the miracle ticket for a guarantee Osiris than.

[darkace51]

I'd recommend aiming for these two SR kamihime, which you should be able to obtain without whaling (one from an event that's coming soon, the other from Gatcha):


One of them provides an attack debuff, while the other provides a type B ATK/DEF debuff. Sub one or both of them in for your current SRs. That'd let you stick with Andromeda for healing.

I am unsure if we will get the first SR you linked for the nutaku version since that kamihime came in an event that was done as a DMM collaboration with the maker of the Koihime visual novel games. So there may be licensing issues for the event in the nutaku version. But yeah I will try to get the second one then.

+99 Phoenix? Unless you're specifically looking for HP, ouch.Character atk instead of elemental atk Eidolon when he has full level 10-20 skill weapons? Apo or Echidna would both work better, no?

But yes, swapping to Apo and dropping Phoenix and Echidna should provide a minor boost.

There's already two high damage SSRs with basically-SSR-Beelz. As what others have said, all that is missing is B type debuffs and sustain, either in heals and/or A type -Atk down. It would be nice if you could use your Soul for that purpose, but sadly, for advanced content that's pretty much limited to Mordred only. Using Joan/Dart/Andromeda with Mordred's debuff might get you far, but not necessarily through everything. I'm guessing Mordred with Joan's -20% Atk A debuff would be the best for you, as is. That'd net you -30% Atk -25% Def, which is okay.

It looks like the options are quite limited there when it comes to Dark... Osiris coming out in one month would have heals, but good luck with that as it's SSR. And of course, Sol is completely broken and tends to solve all your problems on any team, but again, SSR. Darkness Amaterasu is coming out in ~two months and has Sniper Shot of her own, not to mention that she has Mordred's debuff too, which does solve all of your problems as it allows you to use Andromeda(/Cass for Dispel) for heals. But again, SSR! At least there's Nyarlotep in one~two weeks who'd have Atk -15% A debuff, who is SR.

Yeah the phoenix +99 was done mainly for the hp since my kamihime had a hard time staying around long enough during ragnarok fights to get off their burst. So I thought the extra hp would go well with the SSR defender weapon I have. She also has the fourth highest power of all my eidolons so I don't think its possible to swap her out for more stats.

I really just have problems keeping my himes alive long enough to get to use bursts on the ragnarok fights, so a little extra attack might not help. Also I use Echidna because she is at 1 star which gives 45% element attack rather than the 40% of Apo, so even if I switch Echidna out for a bit of a better raw stat eidolon her extra 5% attack on my 40k attack eclipses any differences in stats between her and any other eidolon. That SR you mention might help alot, I will look out for it thanks. The SSRs however I can only pray to gatcha gods for or wait till they release those miracle tickets.

Seeing has how you have the scythe, I would assume you have Dullahan? Use her as a main instead of Echidna or remove Pheonix.

While you have a lot of firepower, your team lacks utilities, which will heavily rely on your soul. The problem here is you still need a healer.

What other himes do you have?

Echidna is at 1 star so she gives 45% element attack which multiplies with my character attack from my weapons so I don't think switching her out as my primary eidolon would work since the next closest element attack I have for darkness is Apo at 40%. Phoenix has the fourth highest power of all my eidolons so I don't its possible to swap her out for more stats.

I might try your suggestion to use Dullahan for extra 20% hp but I would lose the 45% multiplication on my raw attack stats and weapon skills. I listed all my dark kamihime above and I am hesitant to use non-dark kamihime in this team since my dark himes have on average 40% more hp and do at least 100% more damage than any off element kamihime when used with my dark weapon grid. I did experiment with Amaterasu, Summer Sol, and Gaia with my dark team but they died too quickly and did shit damage during ragnarok fights.

I attached a screenshot of all the top eidolon I have currently. Thanks again for all this advice.