Thread: Help on improving team for advance content

Originally Posted by dreadpin

also if u so emphasize on atk...instead of skills, try remove ur Beelzebub since she is one of the lowest atk...--

While Beelz herself has low attack, her team buffs are insane. Unless you're packing a full on-element SSR team (and sometimes even then) or are lacking in -Def debuffs, Beelz can easily fit into any team. Even more so in a Dark teams where her attacks aren't that far off from your main cast.

And are you really wondering why your damage is about the same whether you have 180 or 200 skill levels in Assault? The difference between ~117% Assault and ~130% Assault exists, but it's hard to see with the naked unless you're taking notes, due to damage range.

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Originally Posted by darkace51

-- nor do I understand how large the defense difference between Joan's defense skill vs. Andromeda's is. So if possible could someone explain their difference on surivivability to me?--

Andromeda is like 20% less damage for 3 turns, Joan is -40% for one turn. In other words, against something that does a lot of burst damage like Typhon, Joan is far superior - at least, if you have some source of heals to get you back up. Also against Typhon, saving your -atk debuffs for when she does her burst is what saves you.

And keep in mind that Typhon Ragnarok was literally months in advance on Nutaku.

Note that damage reduction is not the same as defense up. Although I think they might work the same, not exactly sure how defense works. Not in terms of frames, they are literally different buff categories.

Andromeda's defense buff is listed as 20% defense, however defense works, and Joan is -40% damage reduction. In addition to that Joan has a -20% atk down debuff, which you could have used on Typhon before it used its overdrive. Amaterasu's defense buff is 30% defense according to the jp wiki and because they are separate category you could have stacked Amaterasu's defensive buff with Joan's defensive and atk down to mitigate even more damage from its raging overdrive. Though I'm sure one of the biggest factors for a dark teams against Ragnarok Typhon was the lack of HP eidolons. The fight itself was rather simple, just a build up burst, eat 2 regular overdrives, full burst at rage, mitigate a raging overdrive, push into stun, and pretty much win since she's had a very long stun phase, enough to recovery all skills, build up burst and even heal off of regen skills.

My weaker light team (SSR Raphael, SR Artemis, SR Belebog, SSR Amaterasu) has been able to clear all Advent Ragnaroks. No defender weapons and only 1 SSR weapon, rest SRs, so you can guess how low my HP is, the only bonus HP I can get is from relying on a friend with Hecatonchires. I did draw Metatron last week though so I'm not sure if she'll be making a big difference for future content.