Thread: Best (Upcoming) Fire SSR Kamihime

Originally Posted by Slashley

I'm... trying to find out how miracle tickets work exactly.

I explained how Miracle tickets work in the Team building thread.

In short:
Miracle tickets can be used to choose any kamihime that was in the Premium Gatcha pool prior to the start of the promotion, except for limited-time kamihime like Fire Sol. The first ticket in DMM included kamihime released by 12/9/16, and the second ticket by 2/29/17. Consult this table of SSR kamihime for a list of limited kamihime (現在入手不可), and this table of kamihime by release date to determine eligible kamihime (include starter kamihime like Sol that aren't listed with a release date).

It's not clear if the choice of kamihime is fixed (to what was available in DMM) or variable based on the exact timing of introduction in the Nutaku version. It depends how it's coded.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

I explained how Miracle tickets work in the Team building thread.--

Yeah, I saw that, so I figured there should be a source for that information. Which I haven't been able to find. Maybe the source would explain in detail can you wait one week to get one more option...? Or did they code it to be "this exact list" rather than "these ones are available atm so take your pick"

Also, the source might answer when the Miracle tickets get released. I mean, I believe the JP wiki says that there's been four? Whileas your team building thread said two, which I guess is what we'll get within six months. But I haven't been able to find a schedule...

Originally Posted by Slashley

Yeah, I saw that, so I figured there should be a source for that information. Which I haven't been able to find. Maybe the source would explain in detail can you wait one week to get one more option...? Or did they code it to be "this exact list" rather than "these ones are available atm so take your pick"

Also, the source might answer when the Miracle tickets get released. I mean, I believe the JP wiki says that there's been four? Whileas your team building thread said two, which I guess is what we'll get within six months. But I haven't been able to find a schedule...

There is no compiled list on the JP wiki, as they had no need for such a thing. If they wanted to know what was included, they'd just look at the in-game promotion.

I inferred the release dates from edits and comments to the JP wiki. Should be accurate within a few days, which is all that's needed. Precise release dates don't matter because we can't know the precise timing of their release in the Nutaku version.

I already explained that the kamihime pool is determined at the start of the promotion. Kamihime subsequently introduced are not included.

The release schedule should be about once every 3 months, starting with their initial release (likely in November 2017).

On the topic of good upcoming fire SSR... does Da Ji or Horus look like they'll be any good?
Edit: Oops I said Horus, I meant Ra.

Da Ji is bad if you have Amaterasu or run Mordred, Ra, I don't know

Originally Posted by katsalia

On the topic of good upcoming fire SSR... does Da Ji or Horus look like they'll be any good?
Edit: Oops I said Horus, I meant Ra.

Ra is one of the complex ones. At the moment in Nutaku, we only have very boring "numbers and higher numbers" Kamihime, but as time goes on, they've actually made several complex and interesting ones.

Let's see... she basically has two offensive skills, one is a single target nuke, the other hits everything. She has a passive double-attack up, and also a skill which increases her double-attack chance and crit rate (chance to do bonus damage per hit, not in Nutaku yet), uptime is 3/8. Her Burst gives her two stacks of a buff which doubles her skill damage, making her single-target nuke really good - however, the buff will expire before the single target nuke becomes available twice, so you'll need to spend the other stack on the weaker skill.

That sounds all fine and dandy, but the problem is, for some reason they've gimped her Burst gain. She only gains +6 per attack. This is probably what makes or breaks her. The closer her passive brings her to 100% double-attack rate the more decent she is, but chances are she doesn't get close.

And another note... while the more complex KH can be amazing in Advent content, in general you don't have the luxury of fiddling around with them in Raid content (if you value your MVP bonus). As such, I don't think that Ra performs well in Advents and absolutely not in raid content.

Originally Posted by Pareidolia

Da Ji is bad if you have Amaterasu or run Mordred, Ra, I don't know

Hmm? Are you mixing Daji up with somebody? Daji has berserk for the whole party, which is generally good. This one seems to have bad uptime, just 2/7 though. Her combo+ combined with life leech is like a weaker heal, but stacks with Amaterasu's.

Overall, she seems underwhelming. Certainly well above SRs, but doesn't compare to Fire powerhouses.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Ra is one of the complex ones. At the moment in Nutaku, we only have very boring "numbers and higher numbers" Kamihime, but as time goes on, they've actually made several complex and interesting ones.

Let's see... she basically has two offensive skills, one is a single target nuke, the other hits everything. She has a passive double-attack up, and also a skill which increases her double-attack chance and crit rate (chance to do bonus damage per hit, not in Nutaku yet), uptime is 3/8. Her Burst gives her two stacks of a buff which doubles her skill damage, making her single-target nuke really good - however, the buff will expire before the single target nuke becomes available twice, so you'll need to spend the other stack on the weaker skill.

That sounds all fine and dandy, but the problem is, for some reason they've gimped her Burst gain. She only gains +6 per attack. This is probably what makes or breaks her. The closer her passive brings her to 100% double-attack rate the more decent she is, but chances are she doesn't get close.

And another note... while the more complex KH can be amazing in Advent content, in general you don't have the luxury of fiddling around with them in Raid content (if you value your MVP bonus). As such, I don't think that Ra performs well in Advents and absolutely not in raid content.

Hmm? Are you mixing Daji up with somebody? Daji has berserk for the whole party, which is generally good. This one seems to have bad uptime, just 2/7 though. Her combo+ combined with life leech is like a weaker heal, but stacks with Amaterasu's.

Overall, she seems underwhelming. Certainly well above SRs, but doesn't compare to Fire powerhouses.

Thank you for the detailed analysis on both, I've been heavily considering throwing Ra into my team, and a little bit on Daji too.
Overall I'm kinda trying to figure out who to throw my second Miracle ticket at later, since I have Amy and Svarog, I was between Daji and I guess normal Sol (since I don't have summer Sol) since from what I saw it's okay to put her in any team as a healer.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

I explained how Miracle tickets work in the Team building thread.

In short:
Miracle tickets can be used to choose any kamihime that was in the Premium Gatcha pool prior to the start of the promotion, except for limited-time kamihime like Fire Sol. The first ticket in DMM included kamihime released by 12/9/16, and the second ticket by 2/29/17. Consult this table of SSR kamihime for a list of limited kamihime (現在入手不可), and this table of kamihime by release date to determine eligible kamihime (include starter kamihime like Sol that aren't listed with a release date).

It's not clear if the choice of kamihime is fixed (to what was available in DMM) or variable based on the exact timing of introduction in the Nutaku version. It depends how it's coded.

So second ticket will be announced like ours restock of "SSR guarateed gacha"? And i need to buy 1st till it will be restocked?