Thread: DMM Kamihime Project: SSR Awakening Predictions

Originally Posted by Inb4whales

Michael's entire kit can be unloaded onto a boss and still be fully useful. In case of Raph, you either need to delay some skills or use it only in certain circumstances to make the most out of her. And don't even compare Sol with Raph. Sol is clearly an overpowered KH who's utility way exceeds many even when her entire kit is not in use.

My reason for complaining about Raph is simple. She failed as a "defense" KH. Heck even Sol is a better defense KH than her.
ATK down 15% vs 20%, there is no questions asked. Sol wins.
% Rage meter depletion is a very niche use even on bosses/raid bosses since most people save up full burst for the boss rage before unloading it and forcing it into stun. Compare that to dispel which is invaluable and cleanse which is live saving at times.

You're critizing her because of her hime type? Really? Then just think of her as a tricky? Because it really doesn't matter what 'type' the game categorizes her as it has no functionalities other than being vanity words.

Sol is used here as an example of whether or not she'd be less useful if a fraction of her skills take no effect. An example and nothing more. If you wanted, go and replace her with any of the many other SSRs with skills that don't get used outside of situational scenarios, because there are plenty and this is the complaint you're making here with Raphael with a half of a single one of her skills and even then, all your examples of her rage reduction is just just nitpicking at what her skill couldn't be used on against and ignoring all the what it could be. There's plenty of bosses that don't involve raids and even then, raids can be solo-d.

You're clearly scrapping the bottom of the barrel here with your argument when you bring in Balor. Balor's paralyse have a ridiculously low proc rate that it might as well not even be there in the first place. Thor's paralyse on the other hand is a different story.

And the reason I'm comparing Raph and Thor is because:
1. They are both SSR.
2. Both abilities deals damage and apply a charm/paralyse respectively.
3. The goal of both debuffs is exactly the same; stun the enemy.

But clearly paralyse is without a doubt the superior debuff compared to charm due to its surefire lockdown. The ONLY complaint one could have is how short paralyse lasts with teams that require constant rebuffing but that clearly isn't the case with Light at the moment until New Year's Nike is available.
You, stating about charm and paralyse being its own thing is like comparing that a bicycle and a car are different. Of course they are, but nobody cares about a bicycle if the goal is to get somewhere faster.

Thor is not a good comparison to Raphael as I already mentioned and plays nothing like Raphael. What you're doing here is trying to force a comparison using extremely minor details. This is why I used a Balor as a poor example in the same sense you're using. Using your own analogy, all you're doing is comparing the speed of two vehicles while ignoring every other utilities one has over the other.

It IS a big deal when you don't want your Soul to be a debuff bot or when your front line spots are limited with cores like Sol, Lightsuki, SSRtemis. If a player have access to all the SSRs in the game, no one in their right mind would put Raph in that last spot. Same goes to Michael as well but even IF a defensive kami is needed, people would easily opt to go Eros instead because while being a "balanced" KH, the defensive capabilities that she brings to the game far outweighs anything Raph can ever do as the quote-unquote "defense" KH.

If a player had all himes but Eros, then Raphael would obviously be next in line. That's the point we're making here. This was never a comparison between Eros, Raphael and Micheal, it's Raphael, Micheal and Metatron. And of those 3, it would be obvious they would use Raphael with the team you've listed if Eros was not an option.

I'm saying she is far inferior to a good majority of the other Kamis because despite having the same rarity and pull rate as every other SSR KH (well we don't know the numbers for sure because the exact pull rates are never shown but I'm assuming it is) even among the "weak" light team, her abilities are far weaker than what other characters in the same rarity and element can bring.
My argument here is that Raph needs a buff. More that any of you originally though. And most of the time, they only way the Devs would do a HUGE buff is through AW.

My post was nothing about her needing a buff or not. It'd be easy to complain that every original/old SSR needs a buff, heck I even agreed I wouldn't mind her atk down getting buffed (but also said I don't find it a major issue). My post was directed towards your excessive need to constantly target her as if she's inferior to the original 3 of the discussion, despite the fact that she offers much more than them.