Miracle ticket thread

[kyc992]

By the way, while it's not required... would it be about time to register?
It was a pain to go find your Water team for this post...

Done, I actually didn't think I'd end up using the HBC forum this much, hahaha.

You might be confusing the numbers with the Event Eidolons, which offer up to 50% Elem with 5 Subs. Those are AWFUL in general.

Ahh, this might be what I read on which lead me into assuming the same for Anubis. But I did test her out, and it really is a very nice bonus, averaging 15% damage increase AABing raids, and managed to hit 10m once manually a Light raid I hosted.

However, please notice that she does take a while to set up damage numbers like that. She gains 400% Burst damage per 2 turns, max at 2000%. So turn9 she can deal damage like that.

I assume I shouldn't be stalling Full Bursts for the cap unless I'm unlucky and am only 1-2 turns away to cap/rage. But would that make her weaker than/equal to Svarog for overall damage?

My Fire team is sitting on average 7k hp so I thought Uriel would've been the better choice since I'm likely to survive less turns than what might be required of Svarog to catch up on damage compared to Uriel's damage spike. Or is it actually the other way around, Svarog constantly deals more damage per turn and higher overall damage until the moment Uriel spikes?

Actually, since fire SSR Amon is coming out soon, I'm probably gonna be spending a few hundred...(x10)... for her. If I do end up getting fire Amon, which of the two would benefit more? Checking Sanahtlig's reference on Amon, it seems like she provides burst and elemental damage for the team. Faster bursts=more overall damage within the same time limit, but the feeling of it speeding up Uriel's burst(less stacks) seems to make Svarog a better pick in this scenario.


I'm starting to feel like the conversation is heading into a direction where I probably best move back to the Q&A section, hahaha.

[Dejnov]

So I'm definitely looking for help with the MTix since Takeminakata ISN'T in the choice list (thought this one was going to be easy).

I currently main Light/Dark with my Water team next on the list of decent. No 100% Eidolons just event ones.

Lists as follows: SSRs (unless noted)

Light: MichaelAW, Tishtrya, SolAW, and LightSatan / SRs in reserve
Dark: Samael, Chernobog, Pluto, and Osiris / Satan and Hades in reserve
Water: Ryu-Oh, Saraswati, Cthulhu and Poseidon / SRs in reserve
Wind: Odin, Titania, Gaia and Oberon (SR) / SRs in reserve
Fire: Sonsaku, Amaterasu and Hephaestus (SR) and Brynhildr (SR) / SRs in reserve
Thunder: Mammon and Azrael (SR), Cyclops (SR), and Gryla (SR) / SRs in reserve


I would like to help my Light team, but if I can't I'm looking for a strong pull for the Fire/Wind/Thunder teams.

Any suggestions?


Dejnov.

[Slashley]

Ahh, this might be what I read on which lead me into assuming the same for Anubis. But I did test her out, and it really is a very nice bonus, averaging 15% damage increase AABing raids, and managed to hit 10m once manually a Light raid I hosted.

Just for the record in case you didn't know, Ult Disasters have 8 base Def. So they take lots more damage than basically all other content. Don't base your damage on them please~

I assume I shouldn't be stalling Full Bursts for the cap unless I'm unlucky and am only 1-2 turns away to cap/rage. But would that make her weaker than/equal to Svarog for overall damage?

You probably should. Off-element, the damage bonus is 50% for a Full Burst (and 72.5% on-element). This means that a Uriel alone deals 2m damage, but a Uriel in a Full Burst deals effective 3m (or 3,45m on-element) damage. The same goes for all Hime. In general, unless you absolutely must, ALWAYS go for Full Bursts. Some "must" cases are stuff like murderous Overdrives going off that very turn, so you might as well Burst with what you have than die.

Now, Uriel has a massive Combo rate (dealing plenty damage per turn), and even a massive buff for more burst meter gain (gaining 17.5 burst per hit) so she's pretty much the first one ready to Burst first, AND even Bursts like a goddamn truck. So you might be asking, is Svarog even on the same tier as that bullshit?

And the answer is very much yes.
Awakened Svarog gives your entire team 40% permanent Assault. Not some 3/5 uptime 20% bullshit like Arthur, but 40% with full uptime (well, not available from turn1, but stacks up to 40% eventually). This is particularly good for new players (who still have low Assault), but is still noticeable even for veterans. In addition, Svarog is one of the few Hime that actually has a strong as fuck abilities. Effectively, in addition to Svarog's normal attacks, she also gains a double attack from ability damage. Usually Hime like this are fucked over by the damage cap and don't work like this in reality, but Svarog's damage cap is obviously typoed so it won't become a problem to anyone who isn't a whaliest of whales (your normal attacks need to be punching for 130k before you start having problems, but more like 150k). So effectively, on top of that 40% permanent Assault to the ENTIRE team, she also punches for 3-5 per turn. Every. Single. Turn. (on average)

So yeah, it's mostly a matter of preference. Whileas Uriel will usually punch 2-3 times per turn, it's just less than Svarog. However, Svarog won't let you skip entire phases of a fight. Oh, and I think the biggest whales of DMM have replaced Svarog now, with limited edition SOS-dan Haruhi. Not sure about Uriel's fate.

Actually, since fire SSR Amon is coming out soon, I'm probably gonna be spending a few hundred...(x10)... for her. If I do end up getting fire Amon, which of the two would benefit more? Checking Sanahtlig's reference on Amon, it seems like she provides burst and elemental damage for the team. Faster bursts=more overall damage within the same time limit, but the feeling of it speeding up Uriel's burst(less stacks) seems to make Svarog a better pick in this scenario.

Welp, that'd explain why you have so much shit...
Notice that as amazing as Sanahtlig's guide used to be, he just isn't as invested into the game as he used to be. As such, take it with a pinch of salt when it comes to upcoming content.

For the record, I think the rates in this game are so low that spending money on any non-guaranteed is a scam, but it's your money to spend. As for Fire SSR Amon, I'm not sure. My Fire team is weak enough that I haven't particularly cared to look into it, so hopefully somebody else will let you know if she's good for you or not.

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Light: MichaelAW, Tishtrya, SolAW, and LightSatan / SRs in reserve
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You have the best of the best right now, but all Light Hime are going to be crazy. As for which one would be right for you, well, hopefully somebody else will answer that.

[kyc992]

Awakened Svarog gives your entire team 40% permanent Assault. Not some 3/5 uptime 20% bullshit like Arthur, but 40% with full uptime (well, not available from turn1, but stacks up to 40% eventually). This is particularly good for new players (who still have low Assault), but is still noticeable even for veterans.

(your normal attacks need to be punching for 130k before you start having problems, but more like 150k). So effectively, on top of that 40% permanent Assault to the ENTIRE team, she also punches for 3-5 per turn. Every. Single. Turn. (on average)

However, Svarog won't let you skip entire phases of a fight. Oh, and I think the biggest whales of DMM have replaced Svarog now, with limited edition SOS-dan Haruhi.

How achievable is it to be hitting 150k or close to it without Svarog? Also how important is phase skipping for end-game? I know skipping a rage phase can be game changing if I don't have the damage/hp or even damage cuts to survive, but that could be because I'm still currently quite weak.

For the record, I think the rates in this game are so low that spending money on any non-guaranteed is a scam, but it's your money to spend. As for Fire SSR Amon, I'm not sure. My Fire team is weak enough that I haven't particularly cared to look into it, so hopefully somebody else will let you know if she's good for you or not.

Only thing right now is that I don't know if she's going to be a limited SSR, and whether or not future MTs will have her. If I can wait for later to potentially grab her then I'm probably not gonna test my luck on release. Main reason I had a huge boost in SSR quantity was because I wanted Kali. Stockings on the left, pan2 and thigh+tight on the right, and she's a loli. Lost to temptation there, hahaha.

[Slashley]

How achievable is it to be hitting 150k or close to it without Svarog?--

Not very. I am punching for ~100k (with debuffs) on all Hime who don't have massive self-buffs (such as Ares), with P2W Eidolon that'd be ~125k per punch.

-- Also how important is phase skipping for end-game? --

Very. A lot of the game has turned into a damage test, such as AQ5 which basically WILL kill you on turn6 if you don't do voodoo.

Supposedly it only gets worse in the future, but with zero DMM experience, I can't say for sure. But PF - that thing that gets you spike damage - is extremely valued for a reason.

Only thing right now is that I don't know if she's going to be a limited SSR, --

She shouldn't be. Or I've made a mistake in the encyclopedia in Sanahtlig's toolbox, which gives you a quick peek on all the upcoming SSRs.

[Keyen]

The discussion is interesting, i'm myself wondering if I will ever get a miracle ticket and if so, who. I believe that Uriel would be better, but then I was asking myself something. If Shngen is currently the best soul late game and PF is a good part of what it is making her good, wouldn't be an anti-synergy? PF doesn't benefit uriel in the slightest, since she is hitting the cap anyway? Or I missed something?

[Slashley]

The discussion is interesting, i'm myself wondering if I will ever get a miracle ticket and if so, who. I believe that Uriel would be better, but then I was asking myself something. If Shngen is currently the best soul late game and PF is a good part of what it is making her good, wouldn't be an anti-synergy? PF doesn't benefit uriel in the slightest, since she is hitting the cap anyway? Or I missed something?

Pretty much, but Uriel hits for so much it doesn't matter. You'll still want PF for the rest of your team.

As for should you buy a Miracle Ticket, well, that depends on your finances. Miracle Tickets are by faaaaaaaaaaaaar the best thing you can pay for - if you think that you should pay for virtual goods in the first place. And that's... well, questionable.

As for who you should buy, depends on your teams. And whether or not you have 100% Eidolons.

[kyc992]

I might just wait until SSR Fire Amon is out before buying the ticket, and if I get the impossible I might end up with Uriel/Svarog/Amon on pull.
IF i get Amon(or nothing), I might just grab Uriel, save up jewels for Haruhi and test my luck. Would be great to get Svarog from guaranteed gachas, but if I don't get anything, I'll just grab Svarog with my next MT assuming I don't get anything decent for my other elements.
Thoughts?

Edit: Reason I'm not getting Svarog first... I need 9 turns to hit max stacks, but I'll first need to live that long in a raid fight and if I can't, I'm probably too weak to begin with. Uriel's burst could potentially be the lifesaver I need for GO/ACCQs etc. even though Svarog might potentially provide a good overall performance. Btw, what's special about Haruhi? Couldn't find skill info.

[Yseo]

I might just wait until SSR Fire Amon is out before buying the ticket, and if I get the impossible I might end up with Uriel/Svarog/Amon on pull.

SSR Fire Amon won't be obtainable by Miracle Tickets.

[Keyen]

Hum, let's say I get a miracle ticket. Since I started recently and I won't be able to awaken either Svarog or Uriel anytime soon, which one is better unawakened? I believe that the burst cap increase for uriel is only unlocked in awaken state (But even 1 million cap would do a long way where I am), so she is losing a lot of punch, but maybe it's also the case of svarog?