Miracle ticket thread

[Unregistered]

So wich dark hime you think i should get?

My team:
SSR: none
SR:nyarlathotep, tsukuyomi, Bastet, Eligos, Lu Bu
R: neith, Apep, Astaroth, Mephistopheles, Naberius

Eidolon: Ouruboros/Amphisbaena

Thanks for any help

[BlazeAlter]

So wich dark hime you think i should get?

My team:
SSR: none
SR:nyarlathotep, tsukuyomi, Bastet, Eligos, Lu Bu
R: neith, Apep, Astaroth, Mephistopheles, Naberius

Eidolon: Ouruboros/Amphisbaena

Thanks for any help

Wait... you don't have any SSRs for that team?
usually most ppl recommend that you use miracle tickets for a team of urs that has a core SSR or something..

But well unless you're serious in maining dark...
imo these himes are a good start for dark
Hades = atk down debuff 20% w/ def up +affliction block for the entire team plus can be awakened later (gains combo atk rate down and some other stuff)
Amon = 25% def down debuff, has good raging nuke and an extend stun that is handy in some certain fights (like advent ragnaroks or accessory quests perhaps) She will also get buffed in the future (her A frame def down turns to C frame and is no longer single target, plus she gains a light atk down on her curse which can help reach 50% atk debuff cap for light enemies, and her raging nuke turns 7-7.5x which also gets reduced to 6CD only)
Satan = 15% A frame def down, self combo atk rate buff and overdrive reduction (not good right now, but when she gets awakened she becomes better, +10 dark RST to her def debuff which makes her better)
Osiris = Dark's only SSR healer right now, can heal for 1100 +15 burst gauge and can last long because of her self nullify buff
Although I don't really recommend her to you right now because you don't have any of the ones I said above...

So i think in my opinion you should either go Amon if u want to do more damage (and she'll get better in the really long run, go Satan if you can't wait that long since her awakening is in august i think), or Hades if you want a stronger atk debuff and an ability that can block debuffs from bosses once every 8T (and her awakening is also kinda close, around june)
But if you really want a healer, you could probably go Osiris but that means you'll be stuck on 30 atk/30 def debuff (judging by ur team's nyarlathotep/lu bu) unless you have vine and yatagarasu

...Whats your usual dark team setup and which soul are you using though? (and what ex skill)

[Unregistered]

thanks for answer Blazerai

I dont realy have core SSR for any team so i simply go with element i like.

I run with casiopeia for heal i defense. ex skil it depends but mostly Black Propaganda. For himes i simply run the SR ones without eligos because she dosent have any buffs or debufs.

I dont think osiris is that great. I rather focus on debuffs wich means one of the other three. Also how does extentiding stun ability amon has works with nyarlathotep ability. Does this stack or what?
Also sorry for my poor english

[BlazeAlter]

thanks for answer Blazerai

I dont realy have core SSR for any team so i simply go with element i like.

I run with casiopeia for heal i defense. ex skil it depends but mostly Black Propaganda. For himes i simply run the SR ones without eligos because she dosent have any buffs or debufs.

I dont think osiris is that great. I rather focus on debuffs wich means one of the other three. Also how does extentiding stun ability amon has works with nyarlathotep ability. Does this stack or what?
Also sorry for my poor english

Ah, I thought u ran mordred lol. nvm (Why I recommended Osiris, didn't know ur soul was ur healer already)
I still think Osiris +15 burst gauge is quite handy though.. but yeah you probably don't need her right now

I was in a situation once where one of my members got incapacitated and nyarlathotep subbed in, i used amon's first and i think that usually lasts 4-5 turns depending on what fight ur doing, and i used nyarl's next and only 1 stack of stun got added in (and i think it only gave me 1-2 extra turns)
I don't recommend doing that though, if you decide to get Amon, you should probably put nyarlathotep on sub or take her out
I mean you can probably run her, but her only use would be the atk down, and that's about it.

lets say you decided to go use a team that is composed of Cassiopeia with BP/Lu Bu/Bastet/Nyarlathotep/Amon
your debuffs would be at 30atk/40def (you would be 40atk/50def if you have both yatagarasu and vine)

If you went with satan you'd still be stuck with 30/30 debuff for the time being until she gets awakened

If you decide to get Hades, and you went with the same team
your debuffs would be 35atk/30def (45/40 if you have yata and vine)

So overall I think you might want to pick Amon or Satan for the time being since they would increase your damage output

[Unregistered]

yeah i thought that those abilites dont synergize with each other. Consdering everything i probably go with Satan but i stlil have some time to think about it. Thanks again for you insightful input.

[Tanaka5]

Hey guys. I already asked befor but i better ask again. Which hime should i get for my fire team?


SSR: None
SSR: Amon; Raguel; Nataku ; Ragaraja
R: Rakshasa; Nergal; Ignis ; Dazbog

Eidolon: Belial


Would get Amaterasu but someone in another thread said that she maybe is not the best pick.

What do you think?

Honestly Svarog is the best option. She is the most core fire hime who is great in pretty much all circumstances. Followed by Mars. Amaterasu in some situations may not be that great. She is considered core mainly because of the B frame debuff. However aside from Wind Rags (Catastrophes), there will be more non-debuff friendly content if you wish to throw fire at them.

Mars is still more useful because her ability is an elemental resist down and also acts as a Mini VoF. Against Wind Rags or any wind opponent, it becomes a 6.5x nuke.

If you had Konohana Sakuya (R) or Hephaestus (SR), it would make it much easier. I’d suggest going for either Mars or Svarog. If you’re going to invest in this Miracle Ticket and the next, make sure you grab these 2 first. You can go for Svarog now for the raw power in case you have the Mats to AW her while hoping to get Sakuya or Heph for debuffs for whenever you roll with Jewels.

[Slashley]

-- She is considered core mainly because of the B frame debuff. --

And her Blind. And her Heals, despite being sub-par (Brynhildr heals for more for example).
Amaterasu is basically what completes Fire - she has what Fire sorely lacks otherwise. For a new player looking to farm Accessory Quests for example, I'm fairly sure that Amaterasu will make that far, far easier than what Svarog and Mars will.

Of course, this depends on content. Against high debuff resistance, much of Amaterasu's use is lost. Unlike Svarog, who doesn't give a shit about debuff resistance.

[Tanaka5]

And her Blind. And her Heals, despite being sub-par (Brynhildr heals for more for example).
Amaterasu is basically what completes Fire - she has what Fire sorely lacks otherwise. For a new player looking to farm Accessory Quests for example, I'm fairly sure that Amaterasu will make that far, far easier than what Svarog and Mars will.

Of course, this depends on content. Against high debuff resistance, much of Amaterasu's use is lost. Unlike Svarog, who doesn't give a shit about debuff resistance.

My bad I forgot the blind (which is arguably the most important part of her kit alongside the B frame). Also the Regen*, is just a bonus and not the main use. It's the def up buff which you need which mitigates a good deal of damage.

Amaterasu's core function is that of a utility Hime in the fire team and she will be important always. But thing is Fire's playstyle is aggressive and he needs some raw damage too especially since he has that Belial to boost it up. Without DPS, there isn't a point in running fire. Naturally all 3 are needed i.e Amat, Mars and Svarog. I just recommended a different order of using Miracle Tickets. Being a Fire main myself, not having Svarog for a month until I used Miracle Ticket, and Ares/Uriel (who I still don't have) while having all other Himes still hurt because my Damage wasn't at the same level as others.

Also no new player should be looking to farm Accessory Quests anytime soon and till then, it's better they work on a grid and farm events which is another reason why I kept Amat as 3rd priority.

[QXZ]

So wich dark hime you think i should get?

My team:
SSR: none
SR:nyarlathotep, tsukuyomi, Bastet, Eligos, Lu Bu
R: neith, Apep, Astaroth, Mephistopheles, Naberius

Eidolon: Ouruboros/Amphisbaena

Thanks for any help

you should reroll your account until u get a good SSR hime or one of the 100% eidos

[Unregistered]

-- Also the Regen*, is just a bonus and not the main use. It's the def up buff which you need which mitigates a good deal of damage.

Regen are Heals too~
And uh, no. Def up is rather crappy, and certainly not the main use.
30% Def sounds impressive, but isn't the same as damage cut. It is significantly worse. Considering uptime, you'd probably be better off bringing Baphomet for her -10% Atk debuff. Are you going to? No, no you won't. With her skillset, you wouldn't bring her even if she was SSR.

-- But thing is Fire's playstyle is aggressive and he needs some raw damage too especially since he has that Belial to boost it up. Without DPS, there isn't a point in running fire. Naturally all 3 are needed i.e Amat, Mars and Svarog. I just recommended a different order of using Miracle Tickets.--

While true, all the damage in the world won't matter if you're not alive. For example in Advent Ragnaroks, you're going to need to survive a couple of turns before and after at least one Overdrive, before you can Full Burst to end the fight. Neither Svarog nor Mars will help you accomplish that, although they do make the fight significantly shorter overall.

Also no new player should be looking to farm Accessory Quests anytime soon and till then, it's better they work on a grid and farm events which is another reason why I kept Amat as 3rd priority.

They can do both, though. And they should. Getting Atk+, Dbl+ or Affliction Rs will boost a new player by a fair bit.

And the sooner they can do R3s, the sooner they get access to SR Accessories. Which are usually complete garbage, but at least they're great fodder. With someone like Amaterasu helping you get past Wave1, you should be able to clear Accessory Quests much faster.

I suppose we agree to disagree?
-- Slashley