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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    And her Blind. And her Heals, despite being sub-par (Brynhildr heals for more for example).
    Amaterasu is basically what completes Fire - she has what Fire sorely lacks otherwise. For a new player looking to farm Accessory Quests for example, I'm fairly sure that Amaterasu will make that far, far easier than what Svarog and Mars will.

    Of course, this depends on content. Against high debuff resistance, much of Amaterasu's use is lost. Unlike Svarog, who doesn't give a shit about debuff resistance.
    My bad I forgot the blind (which is arguably the most important part of her kit alongside the B frame). Also the Regen*, is just a bonus and not the main use. It's the def up buff which you need which mitigates a good deal of damage.

    Amaterasu's core function is that of a utility Hime in the fire team and she will be important always. But thing is Fire's playstyle is aggressive and he needs some raw damage too especially since he has that Belial to boost it up. Without DPS, there isn't a point in running fire. Naturally all 3 are needed i.e Amat, Mars and Svarog. I just recommended a different order of using Miracle Tickets. Being a Fire main myself, not having Svarog for a month until I used Miracle Ticket, and Ares/Uriel (who I still don't have) while having all other Himes still hurt because my Damage wasn't at the same level as others.

    Also no new player should be looking to farm Accessory Quests anytime soon and till then, it's better they work on a grid and farm events which is another reason why I kept Amat as 3rd priority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaka5 View Post
    -- Also the Regen*, is just a bonus and not the main use. It's the def up buff which you need which mitigates a good deal of damage.
    Regen are Heals too~
    And uh, no. Def up is rather crappy, and certainly not the main use.
    30% Def sounds impressive, but isn't the same as damage cut. It is significantly worse. Considering uptime, you'd probably be better off bringing Baphomet for her -10% Atk debuff. Are you going to? No, no you won't. With her skillset, you wouldn't bring her even if she was SSR.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaka5 View Post
    -- But thing is Fire's playstyle is aggressive and he needs some raw damage too especially since he has that Belial to boost it up. Without DPS, there isn't a point in running fire. Naturally all 3 are needed i.e Amat, Mars and Svarog. I just recommended a different order of using Miracle Tickets.--
    While true, all the damage in the world won't matter if you're not alive. For example in Advent Ragnaroks, you're going to need to survive a couple of turns before and after at least one Overdrive, before you can Full Burst to end the fight. Neither Svarog nor Mars will help you accomplish that, although they do make the fight significantly shorter overall.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaka5 View Post
    Also no new player should be looking to farm Accessory Quests anytime soon and till then, it's better they work on a grid and farm events which is another reason why I kept Amat as 3rd priority.
    They can do both, though. And they should. Getting Atk+, Dbl+ or Affliction Rs will boost a new player by a fair bit.

    And the sooner they can do R3s, the sooner they get access to SR Accessories. Which are usually complete garbage, but at least they're great fodder. With someone like Amaterasu helping you get past Wave1, you should be able to clear Accessory Quests much faster.

    I suppose we agree to disagree?
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    Help me decide

    Been playing for a couple weeks, and I decided to reroll for a 100% eidolon. Ended up with two decent accounts that I've been leveling/throwing jewel rolls into but I'm running out of time to pick one for a miracle ticket. Any advice is appreciated

    Option 1:
    SSR Kamihime: Odin, Poseidon, Thor.
    SSR Eidolons: Hraesvelger

    Option 2:
    SSR Kamihime: Ryu-Oh, Snow Raphael, Nephthys, Yamaraja, Jupiter.
    SSR Eidolons: Hraesvelger


    My thoughts on the matter:
    Option one has Odin, giving me a head start on a wind team which is what all my subsequent tickets would be going towards anyway. Odin isn't a core element though, so would eventually be replaced by a better hime reducing her long-term value. I'll need a back up water team for fire events and poseidons fire resist skill will be good there but that brings me to option two...

    Option two has a really solid base for a water team, like, wow. I wouldn't be able to miracle ticket for c'thulu before I die of old age but I think even without her the duo of ryu-oh/raphael is pretty strong. It also has more SSRs in general although the other three himes don't seem that great.

    I've read some guides but I'm still pretty new so I wanted to ask...What do you guys think?

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    Odin is really crappy due to her self-Def down. She works okay with Titania who can counter that problem, and can be an okay replacement for Cu Chulainn... so normally, I'd say that your reroll is amazing and you should go for it.

    But, what the fuck is up with your second account? That's just a load of horsecock sir. How in the bloody blazes did you get that many SSRs through rerolling? Just how many times did you reroll?!? To have 6/20 slots happen to be 3% chance... that's 1/50897 chance, I believe...
    Well, I guess if you've been playing both accounts for a while, I guess it's more than just the first 6000 Jewels. Anyway, with Ryu-Oh and Snow Raphael, you can cover four of the most important debuffs. Which is just perfect for you to handle Fire events, as you need to main Wind. At least, that's what I think. Despite having an amazing Water team to start with, the P2W Wind Eidolon is just that strong.

    You too should probably pick Hastur for your second account. It'll be a long road for your perfect Wind team, the next Miracle Ticket should absolutely be spent on SSR Cybele. The one after that... well, that's so far away it's hard to tell. It'll depend on your preferences.
    EDIT: Oh, this isn't in the same thread as the other guy who is roughly the same spot as you are.
    By "too", I meant this.
    Last edited by Slashley; 04-15-2018 at 01:59 PM.

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    definitely pick Option 2, because in addition to your Wind Team, your backup Water Team is also ready.

    if you are lucky, u can have Rudra in a few weeks from Gacha, at which point you can choose to main Water or Wind, or both.

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    The nice thing about Hraesvelger is that she will forever be your main wind eidolon and has a ridiculous -20% def down effect, which is extremely strong. But you also need to look at dealing with elemental disadvantage, meaning you'll most likely use a water team to deal with fire related stuff than your wind team, making your 2nd option much better in backing up your wind team since it already has 2 good water SSRs. Odin isn't particularly useful as already mentioned.

    Wind also has one of the easiest starting set up to use thanks to SR Cybele and R Zephyrus. With Joan, you can already hit -50% atk down. With Ambush as a ex skill and Hraevelger, you'll also hit -50% def down. Grabbing Hastur would free you from using Ambush for whatever you ex skill you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Odin is really crappy due to her self-Def down. She works okay with Titania who can counter that problem, and can be an okay replacement for Cu Chulainn... so normally, I'd say that your reroll is amazing and you should go for it.

    But, what the fuck is up with your second account? That's just a load of horsecock sir. How in the bloody blazes did you get that many SSRs through rerolling? Just how many times did you reroll?!? To have 6/20 slots happen to be 3% chance... that's 1/50897 chance, I believe...
    Well, I guess if you've been playing both accounts for a while, I guess it's more than just the first 6000 Jewels. Anyway, with Ryu-Oh and Snow Raphael, you can cover four of the most important debuffs. Which is just perfect for you to handle Fire events, as you need to main Wind. At least, that's what I think. Despite having an amazing Water team to start with, the P2W Wind Eidolon is just that strong.

    You too should probably pick Hastur for your second account. It'll be a long road for your perfect Wind team, the next Miracle Ticket should absolutely be spent on SSR Cybele. The one after that... well, that's so far away it's hard to tell. It'll depend on your preferences.
    EDIT: Oh, this isn't in the same thread as the other guy who is roughly the same spot as you are.
    By "too", I meant
    Definitely lucky, although the initial account only had the Eidolon, Ryu-oh, and Yamaraja. The others came through jewels/gacha tickets from questing/Barong. (Still, getting that many SSRs with only 3-4 extra rolls is pretty crazy now that I think about it)

    Thanks for the help, I'll grab Hastur and Cybele on the next ticket.

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    I'm still learning the game but I'm pretty sure I'll be building a core dark team. These are the current SSR Himes I have

    Fire: Uriel
    Water: Ryu-Oh
    Thunder: Tyr
    Wind: Gaia
    Light: No light only darkness
    Dark: Thanatos+Hades

    Is Sol the best pick for me? Or is there a better choice? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khinks View Post
    I'm still learning the game but I'm pretty sure I'll be building a core dark team. These are the current SSR Himes I have

    Fire: Uriel
    Water: Ryu-Oh
    Thunder: Tyr
    Wind: Gaia
    Light: No light only darkness
    Dark: Thanatos+Hades

    Is Sol the best pick for me? Or is there a better choice? Thanks!
    No point in getting Sol if you're planning to focus dark. Dark is kind of in a weird spot right now but you'll want either Amon Unleashed or Satan for their a-frame def down debuff. Osiris is even an option if you really really want a healer but she's not the highest priority.

    It's pretty weird but right now, Amon has a stronger debuff than Satan but Satan will get an awakening which will make her better than Amon but there will be an update that'll makes changes to Amon making her debuff work with Satan but end up clashing with Thanatos. The latter won't be for another year or so though.

    Personally, I'd go with Satan because her overdrive reduction helps a lot and she won't end up clashing with your Thanatos in the far future. Satan's awakening should be in like 4 months? Hades in 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Definitely lucky, although the initial account only had the Eidolon, Ryu-oh, and Yamaraja. The others came through jewels/gacha tickets from questing/Barong. (Still, getting that many SSRs with only 3-4 extra rolls is pretty crazy now that I think about it)

    Thanks for the help, I'll grab Hastur and Cybele on the next ticket.
    If you're not going to play on your other account, could I have it?
    I've been rerolling for Hraesvelger for forever with no luck. I could keep the account active for support eidolon for you.

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