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  1. #501
    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    "I want to get flooded with text"
    You asked for this, so brace yourself!

    The current wind meta should look like: Shingen with lance (my bad, it's already not "current"), Cu, Titania AW, Cybele(U), Hastur.
    You use BG up on Hastur & DATA buff on Shingen and atk/def buff on whatever.. then the rest of the stuff seems obvious enough, won't bother with that. So here we go with worst case scenario:

    Turn0: 35, 20, 45, 0, 30

    Shingen(bonus 2.5 BG from every hit due to passive) is basically guaranteed to at least DA with Titania DATA, Cu will TA for 2t, Cybele DA at least.

    Turn1: 60, 50, 55, 20, 40

    Turn2: 85, 80, 65, 40, 50

    Pop PF at this point, so Shingen back to 35 BG, Cu TA expired.

    Turn3: 60, 90, 75, 60, 60

    Shingen BG gain reloaded (60->95), all Titania buffs expired.

    Turn4: 100, 100, 85, 80, 70

    Turn5: All set, just go pew pew!

    That is supposed to be the wind meta for a while. Again, this is a worst case scenario, the party can be ready with the burst one turn earlier depending on RNG.
    What's after this? Fill the hole due to the lack of Cu's guaranteed TA with Titania buff since Shingen won't need it this time (30 insta BG after burst) & repeat.

    The meta won't change fundamentally later on, tho I'm not an expert in future stuff excluding my main (light) element.

    The difference between Titania & Cybele is that Cybele can only maintain her own BG gain while Titania has a decent BG gain herself due to her passive, and can contribute to the BG gain of other members of the team. And Cybele's debuff can be replaced by Sniper Shot.. tho you will have to prepare for some misses. :x

    Now.. as for your team, you're lacking Cu & Cybele in case you mtix Titania. However, you got Pussydon, who solves the problem of not having fast units in the 1st burst cycle, then the 2nd can be patched up by Titania.. tho it will still be slower.
    With Pussydon, everyone is going to have basically free +30 BG by the end of turn3, which means everyone has at least 60 by then. Since noone has a specific burst gain mechanic except Titania, she will take the 1st slot after Shingen, then whatever order you prefer. Shingen will still need Titania's DATA buff, but will be ready after turn 3 like that. Titania 75+30.. even overkill, all good. Slot3 needs 80 BG, but only guaranteed to get 60, so BG up from Titania here. Slot4.. pray for a DA at least. Slot5, 60 BG, all ready.


    As for your dilemma.. well, I can't really help more with that. Flip a coin. :x

    Quote Originally Posted by HugMeTender View Post
    Didn't catch a reply so I'll just quote.

    For my light team, my weapons and Eidolon are horrendous, but I DO have Sol, Shamash, and light Tsuku, which makes me one light Hime from a full team.

    My Thunder team is currently Athena, Brahma, Nemesis, and Sol (need those heals)

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    Without information on the rest of your teams.. Mammon, it is.
    Also, it may or may not sound unbelievable, but you will reach a point where you won't need heals, so make sure to drop Sol if you're clearing stuff on basically max HP. HP is there to be eaten slowly. As long as it's not completely eaten, that is.

    Your light seems good already, the current choices don't give you too much gain. Unless you want to get ready for 7 months away Michael AW.
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  2. #502
    Quote Originally Posted by nonsensei View Post
    Without information on the rest of your teams.. Mammon, it is.
    Also, it may or may not sound unbelievable, but you will reach a point where you won't need heals, so make sure to drop Sol if you're clearing stuff on basically max HP. HP is there to be eaten slowly. As long as it's not completely eaten, that is.

    Your light seems good already, the current choices don't give you too much gain. Unless you want to get ready for 7 months away Michael AW.
    Every other element is crap. Water is decent but I also suffer from no assault weapons (which I heard water needs desperately)

    For wind I only have Gaia, for dark I only have Satan. Fire I don't have any SSR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsensei View Post
    Unexpected flood
    Drowning...

    Although I should just copy down this chunk of text for future reference...

    I'm guessing Hercules don't belong here because her DATA buffs don't spread to the whole team?

    Quote Originally Posted by HugMeTender View Post
    Every other element is crap. Water is decent but I also suffer from no assault weapons (which I heard water needs desperately)

    For wind I only have Gaia, for dark I only have Satan. Fire I don't have any SSR.

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    Well, it's practically humping a dead horse by this point, but go farm disaster assault weapons. Really, it should be easy as all hell now that almost all the catastrophes are released. They do more good for your grid than you want to realise initially, but will eventually accept if you do actually do it.

    And so, for reference why not show the water team? Your water grids are only an eventuality anyway, himes are much harder to get.

  4. #504
    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    Drowning...

    Although I should just copy down this chunk of text for future reference...

    I'm guessing Hercules don't belong here because her DATA buffs don't spread to the whole team?



    Well, it's practically humping a dead horse by this point, but go farm disaster assault weapons. Really, it should be easy as all hell now that almost all the catastrophes are released. They do more good for your grid than you want to realise initially, but will eventually accept if you do actually do it.

    And so, for reference why not show the water team? Your water grids are only an eventuality anyway, himes are much harder to get.
    I just got a new job so farming is something I can only really get done during non-event times because I really want to farm these events.

    I also farm lightning as much as possible so I can mlb my Thunder gun for Dart.

    As for water hime, I got Poseidon, Cthulhu, Ryo, and Snow Raph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HugMeTender View Post
    I just got a new job so farming is something I can only really get done during non-event times because I really want to farm these events.

    I also farm lightning as much as possible so I can mlb my Thunder gun for Dart.

    As for water hime, I got Poseidon, Cthulhu, Ryo, and Snow Raph.

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    You have a better group of girls in your water grid than you give them credit for...

    I would put you in the same category as my team comps currently tbh. You can either settle for Asherah to have a pretty solid team setup for water, or you could go for Mammon so your average-ish thunder team becomes pretty good.

    Given that your other grids are still a bottleneck (and your lack of time doesn't help), and that your water setup isn't too starved of core himes though, Mammon is arguably the better pick, clearly in the short run. My guess for you in the long run, however, is nowhere, you might want to figure that out for yourself

    Also, congrats for becoming a useful member of society!
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  6. #506
    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger D Arc View Post
    Also asks advice
    Yep, wind needs the most help. Read stuff above (my reply to Cobble) & decide whether Cybele or Titania. In your case, Cybele might be a better option, tho.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    I'm guessing Hercules don't belong here because her DATA buffs don't spread to the whole team?
    Not only that, she's also too slow on her own to keep up with wind meta. And her debuff on burst overlaps with Hraes, anyway, so another charm point of hers is lost. :x




    Bloody hell, this thread is busy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsensei View Post
    Bloody hell, this thread is busy.
    Miracle ticket hype you know.

    Personally I wished SSR Artemis was in so I could see why Bear said she came with 50% more dere this time...

  8. #508
    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    Miracle ticket hype you know.

    Personally I wished SSR Artemis was in so I could see why Bear said she came with 50% more dere this time...
    There are kind fellows sharing their lewds with us, so no worries about that.

    Also, note that I typoed something in the wind meta stuff, so look it up again coz it's edited.
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  9. #509
    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    Also, congrats for becoming a useful member of society!
    That doesn't sound like me!

    I really think I'll go Mammon, I really enjoy playing with Lightning, it's my favorite element. I think I'd really enjoy Wind as well, but having only one SSR makes using a MT on it kinda unwise. Maybe I'll pull a wind SSR from the 3k event crystals

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  10. #510
    Not really sure what the best move for me would be for miracle ticket. My water comp is currently by far my strongest as that's what I've been focusing on (in terms of accessories and weapons), then wind and heavily below that (not even level cap) is dark, but that obviously isn't a massive issue as can be fixed without too much trouble. While I have a full SSR water team, I know it's not an amazing comp but it's been getting the job done (can clear Rag fire boss solo at least).

    Water
    Shingen, Aphrodite, Asherah, Sarasvati, Ryu-Oh
    Thinking maybe someone to replace Sarasvati or Aphrodite, but not sure who would actually help with that or how much of a boost it would really be

    Wind
    Herc, Cu Chulainn, Azazel, Gaia, and Oberon (also have Iblis and Remial)
    Kinda like shotgun style, but know I'm not close to that yet, but would any 1 hime really make any massive difference for this comp due to it kinda being all over still?

    Dark
    Herc (?), Pluto, Amon (Unleashed), Thanatos, Beelzebub/Lu Bu/ whoever for SR
    Haven't really played with my dark comp much as my grid is garbage, but it would be pretty cool to have a good dark comp. Satan? I know someone said Amon U and Thanatos will have same category def debuff soon, which effectively would mean 2 useful SSRs so would one more really make/break this comp or just make it a little better?

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