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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post

    Well... comes my input for recommendations.

    Water
    Existing himes: Snow Raphy SSR Nike Cthulhu Ea Triton Belphegor
    Candidates: Asherah (no shit I guess lol)

    Wind
    Existing himes: Gaia awakened, Hastur, Summer Poseidon
    Candidates:
    SSR Cybele
    Titania
    Cu Chulainn(...?)

    Fire
    Existing hime: Heph, Amaterasu, Ares awakened
    Candidates:
    Svarog (most likely)
    Uriel (maybe?)
    Mars (hmm...)

    Light
    Existing: Raphael, Sol awakened, Djehuti
    Candidates:
    Light Tsuku

    Thinking of going for wind this time mostly, but I’ll list down my other teams just in case someone else thinks differently.

    Wind-wise, Cybele would probably be the best option to free up sniper shot for another EX, if I run Hercules I would run PF. If I were to go Shingen however, I’m thinking Titania might be the better option, while I simply stick to sniper shot EX.

    My light team... is basically waiting for light tsuku and SSR Artemis. Not sure how much more viable it would become if I do pull Arty on her day (a rather big if...), but say I do... worth completing the team?

    Fire is well... most ppl would recommend Svarog here I guess, but I’m kinda thinking Uriel if I look forward to her future awakening. If anyone can tell me which one is better in the long run, that would help. Right now Uriel being a loli gives a +1 point for me already
    And the other question would be if fire is even worth investing in my case in the first place. Mars is probably not necessary given I can hit debuff cap with Herc Heph Amaterasu

    Then there’s water, which I’ve basically spent about half a year’s worth of investment in. Without Asherah I’m basically capped, but at this point I’m questioning the need, or the actual point, of boosting my water further...
    Didn't get an answer, so bumping myself a bit shamelessly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    Didn't get an answer, so bumping myself a bit shamelessly
    If you want to make an already good team into OP, then it's Asherah, hands down.

    If you want to upgrade a less invested team, from what you listed:
    Wind: I'd say Titania with Shingen(Sniper). Tho you'd be dependent on Hraes friends in this case. Then again, you will probably use Hraes no matter in content that matters, so it doesn't really work as a restricting factor in the end.
    Fire: Yeah, most likely Svarog in your case. She's a freakin' dmg machine, and since you got debuffs covered (with actually accurate debuffs), Mars wouldn't mean too big gain. As for Uriel, she's another kind of dmg machine, but I'd say the Svarog prevails due to the party buff. (Not expert on fire stuff, tho).
    Light: As a light main, I know how big of a jump Tsuku means. Her light resist down is much appreciated, her blind is damn effective. But you can't expect much more from her. She opens a way to reach def debuff cap for light & that's about it if you don't throw light at everything. But with Herc in, reaching debuff cap is available for light by f2p means alone (we just got Demeter through original means).


    So yeah, in case you wanna strengthen your less invested teams, it's either Titania or Svarog. Svarog would draw out the potential of fire to a decent extent, Uriel & Mars from there on would be just.. well, not marginal gains, but not game changing improvements. Your wind wouldn't be that close to maximum potential with Titania, but your aim is to improve the team, she's probably the best pick.
    And again, Asherah if you just want to complete an already well-invested team.

    Also..
    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    Right now Uriel being a loli gives a +1 point for me already
    Damn lolicon.
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    Im trying to main Dark, but the last ssr kamis always were other elements (Ea, Svarog, Mikael, trhee eidolons. Seriously wtf). So now I have the chance to choice a kami.

    I already have Satan (waiting for akakening next month), Sussanno (not awakened cause is not worthy) and Osiris. Belzebub fill the last spot and recently I run Jaune with Sniper Shot to complete AQ4 Easely.

    I guess Thanatos is the only option for her C frame def. With that cover I just need to wait for the dark soul weapons to release and get the herc f#cking op axe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    Im trying to main Dark, but the last ssr kamis always were other elements (Ea, Svarog, Mikael, trhee eidolons. Seriously wtf). So now I have the chance to choice a kami.

    I already have Satan (waiting for akakening next month), Sussanno (not awakened cause is not worthy) and Osiris. Belzebub fill the last spot and recently I run Jaune with Sniper Shot to complete AQ4 Easely.

    I guess Thanatos is the only option for her C frame def. With that cover I just need to wait for the dark soul weapons to release and get the herc f#cking op axe.
    If you wanna mtix a dark unit, I'd definitely go with Pluto. She's just too good of a buffer & can also fill the slot of a front unit for burst cycle due to her passive DATA according to the stacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsensei View Post
    Your wind wouldn't be that close to maximum potential with Titania
    What's considered full potential for me for wind currently and in the future anyway?

    If possible, do you mind doing a quick breakdown between the wind choices (Titania and Cybele)? I'm actually not that familiar with the concept of machine gun bursting with wind, considering I literally just picked it up because Hastur pull and I main water. And summer Poseidon when I blew all my jewels for summer Sol. That was an experience.

    That said, I do get where most of these picks come from. The next worry I have is...

    Quote Originally Posted by nonsensei
    in case you wanna strengthen your less invested teams
    Quote Originally Posted by nonsensei
    if you just want to complete an already well-invested team.
    That's... my dilemma. In one retrospect, having Asherah to power me through content would be swell. In another, that technically only works for like... a couple more events before guild order comes in, and I'll have hell to deal with once the 3rd element comes in (2nd element is water, nothing I can really do since my thunder is ass).

    If I do pick my less invested team, I'm guessing going for the element that helps my main's weakness, therefore wind, is probably the wiser choice? Or is it the case that I can likely deal with most thunder content with my setup and should focus on dealing with wind content with my fire girls?

    Thanks for the inputs btw

    Quote Originally Posted by nonsensei
    Damn lolicon.
    I have issues okay

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    Another bid for advice..

    Issues be damned, I'm with Cobblemaniac.. I love me a good Loli!

    Okay, so, I'll show-off my list of Kamihime and notable Eidolons.
    The list is long, I'm only missing a few. But, I want to make this MT count, since the Regalia and MT gachas didn't give me anything..

    Fire:
    - Amaterasu, Acala, [Summer Sun] Sol, Uriel, Svarog [AW], [Emperor of Hell] Beelzebub
    - Nova Kaiser Dragoon

    Water:
    - Poseidon, Aphrodite, Ryu-Oh, Cthulhu, Ea, [Snow Angel] Raphael, Saraswati, Asherah
    - Rudra, Aqua Kaiser Dragoon

    Wind:
    - Odin, Hastur, Gaia [AW]
    - Hraesvelgr

    Thunder:
    - Raiko, Brahma, [Thunder Witch] Michael, Jupiter, Tyr [AW], Thor [AW], Marduk, Athena

    Dark:
    - Satan, Amon [Unleashed], Osiris, Nephthys, Pluto, Hades [AW]
    - Evil Kaiser Dragoon ***

    Light:
    - Metatron, [Moonlight Maiden] Tsukuyomi, Atum, Shamash, Sol [AW]



    I'm kinda leaning towards Cybele [Unleashed] or Set to stimulate my wind team, and make Hraes meritorious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post
    "I want to get flooded with text"
    You asked for this, so brace yourself!

    The current wind meta should look like: Shingen with lance (my bad, it's already not "current"), Cu, Titania AW, Cybele(U), Hastur.
    You use BG up on Hastur & DATA buff on Shingen and atk/def buff on whatever.. then the rest of the stuff seems obvious enough, won't bother with that. So here we go with worst case scenario:

    Turn0: 35, 20, 45, 0, 30

    Shingen(bonus 2.5 BG from every hit due to passive) is basically guaranteed to at least DA with Titania DATA, Cu will TA for 2t, Cybele DA at least.

    Turn1: 60, 50, 55, 20, 40

    Turn2: 85, 80, 65, 40, 50

    Pop PF at this point, so Shingen back to 35 BG, Cu TA expired.

    Turn3: 60, 90, 75, 60, 60

    Shingen BG gain reloaded (60->95), all Titania buffs expired.

    Turn4: 100, 100, 85, 80, 70

    Turn5: All set, just go pew pew!

    That is supposed to be the wind meta for a while. Again, this is a worst case scenario, the party can be ready with the burst one turn earlier depending on RNG.
    What's after this? Fill the hole due to the lack of Cu's guaranteed TA with Titania buff since Shingen won't need it this time (30 insta BG after burst) & repeat.

    The meta won't change fundamentally later on, tho I'm not an expert in future stuff excluding my main (light) element.

    The difference between Titania & Cybele is that Cybele can only maintain her own BG gain while Titania has a decent BG gain herself due to her passive, and can contribute to the BG gain of other members of the team. And Cybele's debuff can be replaced by Sniper Shot.. tho you will have to prepare for some misses. :x

    Now.. as for your team, you're lacking Cu & Cybele in case you mtix Titania. However, you got Pussydon, who solves the problem of not having fast units in the 1st burst cycle, then the 2nd can be patched up by Titania.. tho it will still be slower.
    With Pussydon, everyone is going to have basically free +30 BG by the end of turn3, which means everyone has at least 60 by then. Since noone has a specific burst gain mechanic except Titania, she will take the 1st slot after Shingen, then whatever order you prefer. Shingen will still need Titania's DATA buff, but will be ready after turn 3 like that. Titania 75+30.. even overkill, all good. Slot3 needs 80 BG, but only guaranteed to get 60, so BG up from Titania here. Slot4.. pray for a DA at least. Slot5, 60 BG, all ready.


    As for your dilemma.. well, I can't really help more with that. Flip a coin. :x

    Quote Originally Posted by HugMeTender View Post
    Didn't catch a reply so I'll just quote.

    For my light team, my weapons and Eidolon are horrendous, but I DO have Sol, Shamash, and light Tsuku, which makes me one light Hime from a full team.

    My Thunder team is currently Athena, Brahma, Nemesis, and Sol (need those heals)

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    Without information on the rest of your teams.. Mammon, it is.
    Also, it may or may not sound unbelievable, but you will reach a point where you won't need heals, so make sure to drop Sol if you're clearing stuff on basically max HP. HP is there to be eaten slowly. As long as it's not completely eaten, that is.

    Your light seems good already, the current choices don't give you too much gain. Unless you want to get ready for 7 months away Michael AW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac View Post

    Well... comes my input for recommendations.

    Water
    Existing himes: Snow Raphy SSR Nike Cthulhu Ea Triton Belphegor
    Candidates: Asherah (no shit I guess lol)

    Wind
    Existing himes: Gaia awakened, Hastur, Summer Poseidon
    Candidates:
    SSR Cybele
    Titania
    Cu Chulainn(...?)

    Fire
    Existing hime: Heph, Amaterasu, Ares awakened
    Candidates:
    Svarog (most likely)
    Uriel (maybe?)
    Mars (hmm...)

    Light
    Existing: Raphael, Sol awakened, Djehuti
    Candidates:
    Light Tsuku

    Thinking of going for wind this time mostly, but I’ll list down my other teams just in case someone else thinks differently.

    Wind-wise, Cybele would probably be the best option to free up sniper shot for another EX, if I run Hercules I would run PF. If I were to go Shingen however, I’m thinking Titania might be the better option, while I simply stick to sniper shot EX.

    My light team... is basically waiting for light tsuku and SSR Artemis. Not sure how much more viable it would become if I do pull Arty on her day (a rather big if...), but say I do... worth completing the team?

    Fire is well... most ppl would recommend Svarog here I guess, but I’m kinda thinking Uriel if I look forward to her future awakening. If anyone can tell me which one is better in the long run, that would help. Right now Uriel being a loli gives a +1 point for me already
    And the other question would be if fire is even worth investing in my case in the first place. Mars is probably not necessary given I can hit debuff cap with Herc Heph Amaterasu

    Then there’s water, which I’ve basically spent about half a year’s worth of investment in. Without Asherah I’m basically capped, but at this point I’m questioning the need, or the actual point, of boosting my water further...
    I favor SSR Cybele because she frees up an EX slot and you can buff her class B debuff to have a higher accuracy than Sniper Shot. With her self-healing and invulnerability, she also makes an excellent frontliner. Titania is awesome too, but Bursting faster is no use in situations where you have to hold your Burst anyway, and in tough fights you'll probably be dead before you're ready for a 2nd Burst in Rage phase. Meanwhile, the ability to sub out Sniper Shot for another ability like Black Propaganda, Dispel, Cleanse, or VoF will always be useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    I favor SSR Cybele because she frees up an EX slot and you can buff her class B debuff to have a higher accuracy than Sniper Shot. With her self-healing and invulnerability, she also makes an excellent frontliner. Titania is awesome too, but Bursting faster is no use in situations where you have to hold your Burst anyway, and in tough fights you'll probably be dead before you're ready for a 2nd Burst in Rage phase. Meanwhile, the ability to sub out Sniper Shot for another ability like Black Propaganda, Dispel, Cleanse, or VoF will always be useful.
    Hey dude, it's been a while.

    The battle between Titania and SSR Cybele seems to be between having a faster burst output vs having a more reliable B frame and a free EX skill then...

    I'll probably need to dig around the DMM wiki to see all the upcoming thunder content and judge which option benefits me better in the long run, or at least 3 months-ish till the next miracle ticket. Yay googletranslatese.

    It wouldn't be a problem if I had one of either to begin with. Hey nutaku, rig the jewel gacha for me would ya

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