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    Okay, so I'm going to borrow my brother's format here while asking similar questions.

    Miracle Ticket #1 got me Gaia... who is now carrying me with her magnificent bussom.

    Miracle Ticket #2 got me Azazel, some much needed firepower...

    Miracle Ticket #3 comes at a time where I'm feeling good with my primary element (Wind), not so good with my secondary element (Water), and literally just now learning it's apparently usable on Eidolons! Okay, that might change things a bit...Or not...Thought Hrae was a shooin, but turns out there's only certain Eidos available...

    Anyhoo, on to the format copying!


    Souls:

    Joan of Arc20, D'Artagnan20, Andromeda20
    130SP heading towards Achilles and Hercules afterwards. Maybe more if I grab some from the Ixion shop.
    190HSP heading towards Mordred



    Fire

    SSR: Yamaraja70***, Acala45***
    SR: Brynhildr60***, Ragaraja60***, Kishar59***, Raguel37*** Ceridwen09***, Hephaestus60***, Agni60***, Amon60***
    R: Nerga37l***, Baphomet30***, Ignis39***, Hestia39***, Dazbog25***, Rakshasa31***, Taikoubou30***, Zeruel41***, Konohana-Sakuya35***, Vulcan47***
    Eidolon: Adramalech+4 (MLB), Ifrit, Fafnir+2, Yatagarasu, PoF-Disaster (MLB), Ignited Dragoon+2

    Possible choices include:

    Fafnir or Ifrit to get them to LB1, but I don't think that's a great use of MT
    Nova Kaiser Dragoon for sheer stat boost, but with Adramalech, there's not much need for that.
    Ares and Svarog are offensive beatsticks and capable of awakening, with Svarog possibly pulling ahead with her party buff?
    Sanahtlig recommends Amaterasu and Mars

    So I guess Amaterasu>Mars>Svarog>Ares>Fafnir>Nova Kaiser Dragoon>Ifrit?



    Water

    SSR: None
    SR: Nike61****, Belphegor60***, Oceanus42***, Triton60***, Kikuri-Hime60***, Enkidu60***, Atalanta59***, Parvati59***, Anahit60***
    R: Sequana39***, Abzu30***, Ganges34***, Dagon27***, Oto-hime30***, Circe26***, Apsara43***, Kushinada30***, Rusalka30***, Undine37***
    Eidolon: Tiamat+5 (MLB), Illuyanka+1 (MLB), Rahab+7, PoI-Disaster (MLB), Aurora Dragoon+2

    Possible choices include:

    Aphrodite or Nike (Unleashed) for powerful heals
    Cthulhu for those debuffs
    (Snow Angel) Raphael looks useful for bosses
    Ea is awakenable and seems...strong?
    Eidos are limited to Aqua Kaiser Dragoon for stat boosts or Fenrir for..., um, sex?
    Sanahtlig recommends Cthulhu and Raphael

    So I guess Cthulhu>(Snow Angel) Raphael>Nike (Unleashed)>Aphrodite>Ea>Aqua Kaiser Dragoon>Fenrir?



    Wind

    SSR: Gaia (Awakened)71****, Azazel80****, Hastur80****
    SR: Cronus70****, Ithaqua70****, Enlil50***, Cybele70****, Principality60***, Oberon60***, Guan Yu (Aisha)60***, Hermes39***
    R: Reginleif50***, Boreas50***, Scathach50***, Vulthoom50***, Anat50***, Caspiel50***, Puck50***, (Song of Spring Wind) Orpheus50***, Zephyrus50***
    Eidolon: Icarus+15 (3LB), Kyuki+14 (2LB), Behemoth+19, PoW-Disaster+4 (MLB), Lilim Luxuria (1LB), Tempest Dragoon+6 (1LB)

    Possible choices include:

    Gale Kaiser Dragoon for stat boosts
    Sleipnir for the drop rate
    Behemoth for LB1? She has a good summon ability, but her stats are nothing...
    Set for great debuffs and heals
    Titania is awakenable and has powerful single target buffs
    Cybele (Unleashed) is just a great improvement on her SR, who was already great.
    Gaia or Hastur to LB1 or LB2 their weapons repectively? Probably not on an MT.
    Sanahtlig recommends Ga...Has...Set and Cybele.

    So I guess Set>Cybele (Unleashed)>Titania>Sleipnir>Gale Kaiser Dragoon>Behemoth?



    Thunder

    SSR: (Thunder Witch) Michael70***, Tyr70***
    SR: Ramiel60***, Baal60***, Nemesis60***, Tezcatlipoca58***, Krishna60***, Astrea01***, Psyche60***, Hermod60***
    R: Perun50***, Verethragna40***, Tlaloc35***, Ariel46***, Skuld49***, Indra50***
    Eidolon: Amaru+5 (MLB), Ixion (MLB), Huanglong+1, Takemikazuchi+1, Meng-Huo (Mii) (1LB), Mastema+1, Lilim Gula (1LB), PoL-Disaster (MLB), Lightning Dragoon+2

    Possible choices include:

    Admittedly, Thunder is pretty bad and my knowledge is even worse, leaving Mammon for D'Art snynergy/debuffs or Raiko for buffs/debuffs
    Even Sanahtlig recommends Mammon and Raiko

    So, I guess Mammon>Raiko?



    Dark

    SSR: Thanatos49***, Hades57***, Osiris60***, Amon (Unleashed)66***
    SR: Bastet60***, Hypnos60***, Rangda60***, Nyarlathotep55***, Beelzebub42***, Lu Bu (Ren)51***
    R: Neith37***, Chaos48***, Apep***, Naberius30***, Astaroth47***, Mephistopheles***
    Eidolon: Echidna, Medusa+1, Lilim Invidia (1LB), Bugbear+2 (1LB), PoD-Disaster, Guilty Dragoon+1 (1LB)

    Possible choices include:

    Echidna to LB1 my first eidolon? Also the best I have for dark atm.
    Azathoth has better abilities, though...
    Satan has some nice debuffs for bosses and is awakenable in the future
    Pluto has some excellent buffs
    Susanoo is awakenable and is a major beatstick capable of healing herself.
    Sanahtlig recommends Satan and Pluto

    So I guess Satan>Pluto>Susanoo>Echidna>Azathoth?



    Light

    SSR: Shamash70***
    SR: Belobog60***, (Sunlight) Brynhildr56***, Djehuti44***, Demeter60***, Diana60***, Anteros60***
    R: (Beach Light) Nergal50***, Dis34***, Daphne50***, Urania50***, Aten50***, Kamadeva50***, Orpheus50***, Dike40***, Inanna33***, Aurora50***
    Eidolon: Barong+10 (MLB), Hecatonchires+2 (2LB), Lilim Superbia+1, PoL-Disaster+1, Ray Dragoon+1 (2LB)

    Possible choices include:

    Sol...There's really no other choices.



    Okay, so I messed with the format a little...It was actually kinda fun comparing what my brother and I have!
    But going over the possible choices for each element, I believe my top 5 are:

    1. Set
    2. Cybele (Unleashed)
    3. Cthulhu
    4. (Snow Angel) Raphael
    5. Echidna

    It really comes down to do I further boost my strongest team with a Healer/Debuffer or a Selfbuffing Beatstick?
    Do I shore up my lagging secondary team with some core debuffs?
    Or do I give my emerging darkhorse a useful primary eidolon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quarters View Post
    It really comes down to do I further boost my strongest team with a Healer/Debuffer or a Selfbuffing Beatstick?
    Do I shore up my lagging secondary team with some core debuffs?
    Or do I give my emerging darkhorse a useful primary eidolon?
    Absolutely never use a Miracle Ticket for an Eidolon, alright? The only Eidolons that would be worth it are the P2W ones, which aren't available. So no. NO picking Eidolons!

    What you need to decide here is to either focus on your Wind or your Dark.
    If you're going Wind, do you really need Set? If you're running Joan+Gaia for waifu reasons, you already have a load of damage mitigation. Chances are that SSR Cybele is your best bet.
    Your Dark is also looking strong, with Thanatos+Amon handling -45% Def and Hades+Osiris for defensive. Hades has overlap with Joan though, but this might not be an issue particularly if you awaken Hades for her combo-. You'll have a very defensive Dark build which is... odd, but hey, if you're running Joan you'll always be running a defensive setup. Until Amon gets reworked, Satan has overlap with her, so that wouldn't help much until you got to Awaken Satan. And once Amon gets reworked, she has overlap with Thanatos... and then you'll NEED Satan... but that's a long time from now.

    Overall, I'd say that your Dark team has less to gain than your Wind team from a Miracle ticket, so maybe go Wind this time and then start going Dark after?
    Going Dark now isn't the wrong choice either though. Satan will more future-proof your team so that you won't get screwed over by Amon changes. And if you're going Dark, for the next MT you'll probably want to use it on the more aggressive Hime like Chemobog or Berith... which you might not be able to do since you'll need Satan to cover for the upcoming Amon changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Absolutely never use a Miracle Ticket for an Eidolon, alright? The only Eidolons that would be worth it are the P2W ones, which aren't available. So no. NO picking Eidolons!

    What you need to decide here is to either focus on your Wind or your Dark.
    If you're going Wind, do you really need Set? If you're running Joan+Gaia for waifu reasons, you already have a load of damage mitigation. Chances are that SSR Cybele is your best bet.
    Your Dark is also looking strong, with Thanatos+Amon handling -45% Def and Hades+Osiris for defensive. Hades has overlap with Joan though, but this might not be an issue particularly if you awaken Hades for her combo-. You'll have a very defensive Dark build which is... odd, but hey, if you're running Joan you'll always be running a defensive setup. Until Amon gets reworked, Satan has overlap with her, so that wouldn't help much until you got to Awaken Satan. And once Amon gets reworked, she has overlap with Thanatos... and then you'll NEED Satan... but that's a long time from now.

    Overall, I'd say that your Dark team has less to gain than your Wind team from a Miracle ticket, so maybe go Wind this time and then start going Dark after?
    Going Dark now isn't the wrong choice either though. Satan will more future-proof your team so that you won't get screwed over by Amon changes. And if you're going Dark, for the next MT you'll probably want to use it on the more aggressive Hime like Chemobog or Berith... which you might not be able to do since you'll need Satan to cover for the upcoming Amon changes.
    I would go in that case for Pluto and replace Hades.
    And latet I would run Shingen/Herc in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    I would go in that case for Pluto and replace Hades.
    And latet I would run Shingen/Herc in this case.
    I'm going with the assumption that he doesn't want to let go of Joan for waifu reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    I'm going with the assumption that he doesn't want to let go of Joan for waifu reasons.
    Joan for waifu reason
    Well, if that's the case, still get Pluto... to have at least more damage tbh

    But if you are going to use Joan 4 ever, then you can already forget just to run Amon and Herc to reach def cap... Because you will need Satan or Samael then later.
    However I don't recommend you to get Satan now!

    4th MT will be for Chernobog or Berith, if you want something for Dark.

    If you don't have Satan till 5th MT then you should miracle her. Amon U skill change comes one month before 5th MT.

    I can understand the reason to use a waifu, I also want Chernobog. No matter what

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Absolutely never use a Miracle Ticket for an Eidolon, alright? The only Eidolons that would be worth it are the P2W ones, which aren't available. So no. NO picking Eidolons!
    NO CAPES!

    ...Sorry, I had to.

    Do you know if Eidolons such as Hraesvelgr will ever be selectable via Miracle Ticket? Or they they forever luck based?

    Secondly, do you know of any upcoming Dark Advent Eidolons? With the exception of Dark, I have Advent Eidolons for every element with over 2000 total power and decent effects. Dark only has 0LB Echidna with 1400ish total power.

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    Honestly, if you got the Kami you care about or need, then guess who is a good pick on the Eidolon side? The Kaiser dragoons...

    By all means, focus tickets on Kami first. But in the off chance you aren't hurting for an SSR, consider a kaiser

    Kaiser dragoons are still considered the 2nd best gacha eidolons after all, right behind the OP 100% ones we can't pick.

    In my case, I don't need to go a Kami (even though some do help my non-main teams), so I can opt for a Kaiser, use the break limit item I got from grab bag, then get another from orb shop and boom, lv70 kaiser
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    Anyone happen to do like me and ever use a ticket for waif purposes?

    First one was for Sol due to how OP she was, but I used my 2nd on Dakki (her buffs is good, but I'd honestly fuck the shit out of her)
    Dakki to you is basically Sol to me. But hey, you know that already

    It helps that her scenes establish that she pretty much regenerates away your refractory period.

    My MT on Sol was... quite honestly a shot in the dark, I'm just lucky my loli waifu happens to be one of the best supports, at least for her time. Still is though, IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    Honestly, if you got the Kami you care about or need, then guess who is a good pick on the Eidolon side? The Kaiser dragoons...

    By all means, focus tickets on Kami first. But in the off chance you aren't hurting for an SSR, consider a kaiser

    Kaiser dragoons are still considered the 2nd best gacha eidolons after all, right behind the OP 100% ones we can't pick.

    In my case, I don't need to go a Kami (even though some do help my non-main teams), so I can opt for a Kaiser, use the break limit item I got from grab bag, then get another from orb shop and boom, lv70 kaiser
    I... really don't recommend having a Kaiser over a kami if you can help it. Firstly, I'm not exactly sure what your team setups are, but if you still have an element which really lacks hime, and your main teams are good... boost that lacking element.

    The days where one main element to carry through all content and a secondary to counter the main is mostly gone, or at least will be gone soon, given the introduction of GO, tower, AQ5 and true rags. Kaisers only exist to buff the teams further, and besides you can buy them soon in 2 weeks time. Expensive, yes, but much more worth than spending a miracle ticket on them.

    And mark my words, unless you've been space whaling you won't be not needing himes for your other teams.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quarters View Post
    NO CAPES!

    ...Sorry, I had to.

    Do you know if Eidolons such as Hraesvelgr will ever be selectable via Miracle Ticket? Or they they forever luck based?

    Secondly, do you know of any upcoming Dark Advent Eidolons? With the exception of Dark, I have Advent Eidolons for every element with over 2000 total power and decent effects. Dark only has 0LB Echidna with 1400ish total power.
    100% eidolons by the 50 bucks miracle...? Not that I can remember seeing the DMM wiki. The almighty 150 dragon eye miracle ticket includes all available hime and eidolon though, and yes, that includes limited edition and 100% eidolons.

    For the low low price of 150 dragon eyes...
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