Thread: Best Lineup for my Water Grid?

Originally Posted by Ikki

what debuff stability? depending on a 10 turns skill? i wouldnt call that stability, arthur and shingen with SS is way better, heck even d'art with ryu oh gun is ahead of mord with his team.

Not having Mordred's debuff- is a huge risk. If your Def- debuff gets resisted, your damage goes down the drain.

That's part of what Mordred is for - giving you debuff stability. You do NOT want to have any debuff resists.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Not having Mordred's debuff- is a huge risk. If your Def- debuff gets resisted, your damage goes down the drain.

That's part of what Mordred is for - giving you debuff stability. You do NOT want to have any debuff resists.

not a fan of vof anymore since we got sphinx (although it misses quite often too), besides assuming elemental adv debuffs arent thaat hard to land, if vof is an issue then shingen with vof pulls way ahead of mord just because of PFB.

Originally Posted by Ikki

not a fan of vof anymore since we got sphinx (although it misses quite often too), besides assuming elemental adv debuffs arent thaat hard to land, if vof is an issue then shingen with vof pulls way ahead of mord just because of PFB.

Running without a class B debuff ruins the entire point of running Shingen, since you'll lose half the damage gain from Provisional Forest, Shingen won't be guaranteed to get the buff, AND you'll be taking more damage.

Come to think of it, Vine could negate the damage decrease, but triple attacks with ATK -30% could still be a real problem.

Originally Posted by Ikki

not a fan of vof anymore since we got sphinx (although it misses quite often too)--

Sphinx doesn't hit as often, yes, has a long cooldown, AND is weaker than Mordred's debuff-.
Certainly much, much better than nothing, but not as reliable as Mordred's debuff.


Elemental advantage debuffs are currently extremely rare and will always be tied to extremely specific SSR Hime. Not to mention that Water doesn't even have any as far as I know!

Originally Posted by Slashley

Elemental advantage debuffs are currently extremely rare

What he means is that VoF may not be necessary if you have elemental advantage. Which is highly circumstantial.