Thread: SSR Gacha Ticket Question

Originally Posted by Slashley

You can't. They were removed from the gacha, and thank heavens for that.

As pointed out, those weapons will eventually become the best ones in the game. But that requires getting four copies of each. For anyone who doesn't LMB them, aka spend tens of thousands of dollars on them, they're trash tier. You're better off using SRs.

i got somewhat mixed feelings about that... i got a few copies of the wind gun and i have a wind bow from that i pulled a while back....

now they're pretty much just there....

means a better chance to get a kami weapon, but at the same time it means i'm likely not finishing what i started on those weapons. well, at least i got a decent supply of event SSR.... those at lv125 still give some good stats

How often does the game sell those purple limit breaking materials? I know they are in the shop... but only extreme whales can afford those. I've only seen it sold as part of the New Years gacha. Anyone know how often DMM has had those gachas? Even if it's once every quarter then over the span of 9 months you could have a MLB himeless SSR weapon.

Originally Posted by Saberborn

How often does the game sell those purple limit breaking materials? I know they are in the shop... but only extreme whales can afford those. I've only seen it sold as part of the New Years gacha. Anyone know how often DMM has had those gachas? Even if it's once every quarter then over the span of 9 months you could have a MLB himeless SSR weapon.

if that's the case, then promo timing is key and.... Nutaku can pretty much say screw DMM in that case...

i'm sure there's some things we'll get in line with DMM (like possibly miracle tickets), but i highly doubt some stuff will match up with them...

that honestly seems far more unreliable than just gacha-ing for the weapons considering all the unknowns, even though it's very convenient if it does happen (cause old raid weapons have to be in the raid gacha later on that can give stuff you missed or they can use some SSR breaks too)

Whales on DMM version regret not buying more of those when the final LB was implemented.

Best part is, they'll get the additional skill even w/o LB (while KH weapons require final LB).

But mind that NOT all of the kamiless SSRs are the best. 1/3 of them are defender weapons, which are not quite useful (except the fire hammer that gets assault as 2nd skill); and those getting combo atk rate skill are just okay; the burst and pride skills are truly the best (not available to Dark and Light though).

Even at this time, with no LB and no extra skill, the assault SSRs are comparable with good SRs, as their lower base stats are offset by higher skill effect.

Originally Posted by Wanderer

-- the burst -- skills are truly the best --

Wait, what? Burst is usually a complete trash tier stat. I could look this up from the JP wiki, but save me the bother?

Also, rather than using the SSR limit break materials on the Shop weapons, wouldn't those be better used on Relic weapons?
Unless you're interesting in only one weapon for one element, the Regalia farm is likely going to be just utterly INSANE otherwise.

I think the exceed is good because it gives you the same effect with Shingen's 2nd skill.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Wait, what? Burst is usually a complete trash tier stat. I could look this up from the JP wiki, but save me the bother?

Saved you the bother and looked it up, it's apparently supposed to amplify burst damage and raise the damage cap of burst... if what Google translate says is accurate. Quite the useful tool for burst teams I'd wager.

Putting aside the fact that two weapon skills are usually better than one, and you won't have a wide selection of SSR weapons to choose from, equippable Burst buffs are not especially good, and I explain why in my Accessory buff guide.

Remember that Burst damage starts with a 5x rather than a 1x multipler (for SSR kamihime). Therefore any Burst buff's effect should be divided by 5 to approximate the effect on damage. Shingen's ability is a +200% buff, which is why it's so powerful. To get the same effect with weapon skills, you'd need 7 SLVL20 (small effect) weapons, which would yield +42% Burst damage. Meanwhile, 7 equivalent Assault skill weapons would give you +70% character attack, or +31.5% damage. Would you rather have +31.5% damage all the time, or +42% damage on Bursts only?

In short, Shingen is good because her Burst buff (+42% Burst damage) is uncommonly strong vs. the alternatives available for character ATK (e.g., +9% damage from Arthur). Throughout the rest of the game, you don't see that same lopsided ratio.

Originally Posted by Saberborn

How often does the game sell those purple limit breaking materials? I know they are in the shop... but only extreme whales can afford those. I've only seen it sold as part of the New Years gacha. Anyone know how often DMM has had those gachas? Even if it's once every quarter then over the span of 9 months you could have a MLB himeless SSR weapon.

They're also farmable from Tower events.