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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    but 3% chance does pretty much calculate to about 1 out of 33-34 attempts so maybe half that is the rate of getting any SSR kami...
    I calculated the rates for SSR kamihime a while ago using a whole lot of data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    I calculated the rates for SSR kamihime a while ago using a whole lot of data.
    i am kinda curious about exact rates cause i seem to have pulled quite a lot of SSR eidolons and kami since i started this game (or maybe my luck is just high)

    plus the non-kami weapons aren't in the gacha anymore if i remember that right from another thread...

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    You can find the estimated rates in the Gatcha tab of my Toolbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    I calculated the rates for SSR kamihime a while ago using a whole lot of data.
    And the result was 1.53%? I don't think you've made a post of it at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    And the result was 1.53%? I don't think you've made a post of it at least.
    It was, but the 50% category rate is sort of coincidental. It's different for SR and R kamihime. Perhaps of more interest is the tool's ability to calculate 95% confidence intervals and such--perfect to determine how much you can expect to spend on things like limited kamihime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    It was, but the 50% category rate is sort of coincidental. It's different for SR and R kamihime. Perhaps of more interest is the tool's ability to calculate 95% confidence intervals and such--perfect to determine how much you can expect to spend on things like limited kamihime.
    That is assuming that we know what the modifier is in Nutaku. When I was whaling for Karin, I didn't get the Koihime SR until at very end of the ~980 bucks spent. If 15x modifier is a thing, then that was insanely unlucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    That is assuming that we know what the modifier is in Nutaku. When I was whaling for Karin, I didn't get the Koihime SR until at very end of the ~980 bucks spent. If 15x modifier is a thing, then that was insanely unlucky.
    Was that before or after the change from 5x rate to 15x rate up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanahtlig View Post
    Was that before or after the change from 5x rate to 15x rate up?
    Karin was Koihime, so 15x modifier had happened on DMM two events before. As far as I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    That is assuming that we know what the modifier is in Nutaku. When I was whaling for Karin, I didn't get the Koihime SR until at very end of the ~980 bucks spent. If 15x modifier is a thing, then that was insanely unlucky.
    that's the thing, luck is still a major factor.... i learned that the hard way dealing with pero pero seduction given it's system to even get all the boosters for the EG events

    it's still more an estimate to how often you should pull an SSR or SR kami... which honestly added up to my educated guess just going by gacha contents and SSR rate (cause i did a rough guess with simple math and didn't break it down like Sanahtlig did...).

    if i remember all the times i spent on this game and all the magic jewels i burned out, i'm at more or less a 3-6% rate of SSR kami weapon pulls. i spent somewhere around 21k magic jewels and about 1800 bucks total outside of the SSR guaranteed attempts... i may have about 7 kami i got by sheer luck and not anything forcing SSR, but I am sitting on a lot of dupe weapons... I kinda wish i recorded EVERY gacha attempt, but i got most of them down thanks to youtube... and i have played this game since it's nutaku launch (even net a copy of echidna during the pre-launch thing), so that's a long line of pulls to remember so i'm likely off...

    in fact, gaia and Cu chulainn's weapons alone are at lv100... and I think I got Thor and Svarog to at least lv75 each
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    I kinda wish i recorded EVERY gacha attempt, but i got most of them down thanks to youtube...
    If you haven't used any SSR weapons or eidolons for enhancement, you can count these up and use them to estimate rates. That's how I did it (with a whole lot more data).
    Magicami Starter Guide: Rerolling for Success
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