Thread: [Event 40] Crucible of Combat VS The Demon Gluttony (Rematch)

First rematch VS union event demon.. I wonder if we'll get the correct rewards?


Lilim Expert - Normal Overdrive - 8 consecutive ATKs
Raging Overdrive - Overall ATK + burst gauge decrease (-20)

Expert Demon - Normal Overdrive - single attack, but troublesome as enemy recovers her own HP greatly. However, if you are using dark team, Naberius can be perfect as she applies zombie which deals damage depending on how much the enemy recovers. "each time an enemy recovers it can damage up to 1 million."
Raging Overdrive - Overall ATK + DEF debuff to all allies + 50% self buff

Ultimate Demon - Overall ATK in both overdrives + high ATK buffs to self
(2 turn charge meter)

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Recommended Team/Formation

again, Cassiopeia for her healing+CM
Mordred for debuffs+BP
Hastur for ATK/DEF debuff/ ATK BUFF
Ithaqua - Healer
Oberon for ATK/DEF debuff + dizzy
Titania - Burst gauge recovery, though it is to 1 ally.
Gaia - High DEF/cut damage
Sol - Heal/cure debuff/ CM
Uzume - Burst gauge recovery
Cu Chulainn - avoid DMG + burst gauge up


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Rewards!

SSR Eido - Lilim Gra - Thunder attribute to all allies up(medium) + MLB - When the attributes of the main member differ by 3 or more Attack power of thunder attribute character 90% up
SSR Weapon - Thunder Pride Gun - Max ATK 2328
SSR Weapon - Thunder Assault Spear - Max ATK 2.4K
SR Defender - 1710 max ATK
SR Assault - 1728 max ATK

New Special Kami -

SSR Offense Type - Cybele [Unleashed] http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--...94%BE%EF%BC%BD
SR Balance Type - [Diva of Flower Wind] Ramiel http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--...82%A8%E3%83%AB
R Offense Type - [Song of Springs Wind] Orpheus http://xn--hckqz0e9cygq471ahu9b.xn--...82%A6%E3%82%B9
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good luck!

So, SSR Cybele is coming up. Let's talk about her a little bit.

Now, normally characters do double attack 8% of the time and triple attack 3% of the time. So they attack on average 0,16 + 0,09 + 0,89 times per turn, 1,14 attacks per turn.
SSR Cybele wants to be a little bit special, so she doesn't do that. She's literally incapable of doing single attacks, even when debuffed with combo-. She double attacks 84% of the time and triple 16% of the time, according to some random Jap. Who we're going to just trust here, obviously. Who would go on the internet just to tell lies? Anyway, that makes Cybele attack 1,68 + 0,48 times = 2,16 attacks per turn.

So what does this mean? Well, it means that scaling for SSR Cybele is absolutely fucking broken. Because of her pathetic SR level base attack (literally the same as SR Cybele), she doesn't really help new players all that much. But as you pile up better gear, SSR Cybele becomes just... completely and utterly broken. If you're having problems comprehending it, maybe this will help: normal end-game users end up with around 30k attack. This means that a 10k base attack SSR will do 1,14*(10k+30k) = 45,6k and SSR Cybele will do 2,16*(5k+30k) = 75,6k.

The stronger you get, the more powerful this beast becomes.

You could imagine that SR Cybele is hiding in SSR Cybele shadow and will attack whenever SSR Cybele attacks.

It's not like SSR Cybele is perfect. Well, I mean, she's complimented by her Sniper Shot, so she IS really, but I meant the scaling. Her Burst attacks deal normal amounts of damage, not the near double insaneness that her normal attacks do. And, if you want her to, SSR Cybele will be Bursting often. I mean, she generates 21.6 Burst every turn on average. Even in Wind's Burst generation heavy element, she's nearly unmatched.

So. What am I getting at? Well, the thing is, again, the stronger YOU are, the stronger SSR Cybele becomes. So, here's a fun fact for you: SSR Cybele release scissors have extremely high Atk. And I mean EXTREMELY high attack. With a whopping 2928 it just barely loses to only a couple of level 150 Wind SSRs, the best one of being 3064, Azazel's weapon. But while Azazel's weapon is HP, SSR Cybele's weapon is 6% Assault and 0% HP base. In addition, Cybele prefers Glaives, and that's what her scissors are. So LMB SSR Cybele scissors give her 3320 attack. Each.

And remember, the more you feed this monster, the stronger and stronger she becomes, as she gains nearly double the power that other Hime do.


So, just for a measly 570*30 bucks (~17k), you can be expected to have 9 SSR Cybele scissors (or 230 10-pulls if Nutaku is using 15x modifier, which we're not sure about). Then you just need a meager 540 Dragon Eyes to LMB all of them. Don't have enough Dragon Eyes? Well, keep pulling. Remember, each SSR Cybele scissors is effectively 21 Dragon Eyes here. Anyway, you don't want to have 10x Cybele Scissors since you'll want to keep your Soul's weapon slot free for a relic weapon.

Thus, if you have way more money than common sense, you can build an absolutely insane Wind team. 9x SSR Cybele scissors will give you 144% Assault and 90% HP. With 32k attack just from weapons alone (9*3320 + 2120 from some random SSR Soul weapon), SSR Cybele will be tearing any opponents to shreds. And we're not even mentioning the super powerful Eidolons like the SSR Kaiser Dragoons, like a single LMB Wind one giving SSR Cybele 3630 attack... and chances are high you'll have pulled Frasenberg who gets released alongside SSR Cybele. So add 200%+ elemental attack there too.

Soooo. Any mega-whale want to take up the challenge when Gluttony comes back to us? Thanks to base stats, SSR Cybele in such a team would count for like 4 Hime and each other character would count for like two... so it'd be like a party of 12 characters. Oh, and thanks to P2W Eidolons, double that. Mmmmh, just about five times more damage output than what non-whales can hope for. Seriously, I want to see this shit in action.

->Open Spoiler<-

(pssst, let's ignore the fact that whenever I see our few mega-whales in raids, they tend to spam Elixirs, thus entirely nullifying SSR Cybele's scaling benefits, okay!)

Unfortunately, that 2nd SSR Weapon won't be available until Demon: Gluttony's 2nd Reprint...

So we're not only getting SSR Cybele BUT ALSO Wind Ramiel and Wind Orpheus.

I didn't know they were coming along together. Good to know.

a noob question, if SSR Cybele has guaranteed combo hit rate, should we place her as last main member?

SSR Cybele can be placed last to boost Burst generation (by Bursting twice). But since she has a 1-turn invincibility and self-heal, she also makes a good frontliner to absorb damage.

Originally Posted by Slashley

In addition, Cybele prefers Glaives, and that's what her scissors are.

Ah, that does raise a question I didn't know I had. How does the hime weapon preference system work? I've heard of the mechanic, but I've either completely forgotten what it does or couldn't find info on it.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Everything else.

So... is it recommended for a non wind main to try roll for SSR Cybele? More personally for my own account I would say, is it viable to roll for SSR Cybele if 1. I main water, so that's a counter element to my weak element and 2. I have Gaia Sol for a secondary wind team?

Originally Posted by Slashley

So, SSR Cybele is coming up. Let's talk about her a little bit.

Now, normally characters do double attack 8% of the time and triple attack 3% of the time. So they attack on average 0,16 + 0,09 + 0,89 times per turn, 1,14 attacks per turn.
SSR Cybele wants to be a little bit special, so she doesn't do that. She's literally incapable of doing single attacks, even when debuffed with combo-. She double attacks 84% of the time and triple 16% of the time, according to some random Jap. Who we're going to just trust here, obviously. Who would go on the internet just to tell lies? Anyway, that makes Cybele attack 1,68 + 0,48 times = 2,16 attacks per turn.

So what does this mean? Well, it means that scaling for SSR Cybele is absolutely fucking broken. Because of her pathetic SR level base attack (literally the same as SR Cybele), she doesn't really help new players all that much. But as you pile up better gear, SSR Cybele becomes just... completely and utterly broken. If you're having problems comprehending it, maybe this will help: normal end-game users end up with around 30k attack. This means that a 10k base attack SSR will do 1,14*(10k+30k) = 45,6k and SSR Cybele will do 2,16*(5k+30k) = 75,6k.

The stronger you get, the more powerful this beast becomes.

You could imagine that SR Cybele is hiding in SSR Cybele shadow and will attack whenever SSR Cybele attacks.

It's not like SSR Cybele is perfect. Well, I mean, she's complimented by her Sniper Shot, so she IS really, but I meant the scaling. Her Burst attacks deal normal amounts of damage, not the near double insaneness that her normal attacks do. And, if you want her to, SSR Cybele will be Bursting often. I mean, she generates 21.6 Burst every turn on average. Even in Wind's Burst generation heavy element, she's nearly unmatched.

So. What am I getting at? Well, the thing is, again, the stronger YOU are, the stronger SSR Cybele becomes. So, here's a fun fact for you: SSR Cybele release scissors have extremely high Atk. And I mean EXTREMELY high attack. With a whopping 2928 it just barely loses to only a couple of level 150 Wind SSRs, the best one of being 3064, Azazel's weapon. But while Azazel's weapon is HP, SSR Cybele's weapon is 6% Assault and 0% HP base. In addition, Cybele prefers Glaives, and that's what her scissors are. So LMB SSR Cybele scissors give her 3320 attack. Each.

And remember, the more you feed this monster, the stronger and stronger she becomes, as she gains nearly double the power that other Hime do.


So, just for a measly 570*30 bucks (~17k), you can be expected to have 9 SSR Cybele scissors (or 230 10-pulls if Nutaku is using 15x modifier, which we're not sure about). Then you just need a meager 540 Dragon Eyes to LMB all of them. Don't have enough Dragon Eyes? Well, keep pulling. Remember, each SSR Cybele scissors is effectively 21 Dragon Eyes here. Anyway, you don't want to have 10x Cybele Scissors since you'll want to keep your Soul's weapon slot free for a relic weapon.

Thus, if you have way more money than common sense, you can build an absolutely insane Wind team. 9x SSR Cybele scissors will give you 144% Assault and 90% HP. With 32k attack just from weapons alone (9*3320 + 2120 from some random SSR Soul weapon), SSR Cybele will be tearing any opponents to shreds. And we're not even mentioning the super powerful Eidolons like the SSR Kaiser Dragoons, like a single LMB Wind one giving SSR Cybele 3630 attack... and chances are high you'll have pulled Frasenberg who gets released alongside SSR Cybele. So add 200%+ elemental attack there too.

Soooo. Any mega-whale want to take up the challenge when Gluttony comes back to us? Thanks to base stats, SSR Cybele in such a team would count for like 4 Hime and each other character would count for like two... so it'd be like a party of 12 characters. Oh, and thanks to P2W Eidolons, double that. Mmmmh, just about five times more damage output than what non-whales can hope for. Seriously, I want to see this shit in action.

->Open Spoiler<-

(pssst, let's ignore the fact that whenever I see our few mega-whales in raids, they tend to spam Elixirs, thus entirely nullifying SSR Cybele's scaling benefits, okay!)

Now, that was some epic - How do I put this? Brainstorming? Yeah, let's go with that. - brainstorming. Whaling that even space whales won't do aside, SSR Cybele is indeed a core unit for the fast bursting comboattack maniac wind. Brings a B frame coverage, this time with 20%, instead of 15, will probably survive tougher battles thanks to her invic & selfheal, and boosting her already good offensive means (thanks to the assist ability) with critical hit chance.. against thunder, that is.
I ignored wind in the past, and will probably continue to ignore, as I got none of the core units, and the weapon choices for the grid is also pretty sad. But I do think they have potential with SSR Cybele & Titania AW implemented and seems a pretty fun element to play it.

SSR Cybele gives Wind a free Sniper Shot, presumably with a higher accuracy rate. She's worth it for that alone. With her and Hastur, you have 2/3 of the core debuffs covered. Pair that with Joan (or Mordred w/ ATK down EX) and Gaia and you have a well-balanced build that can cover most situations. Add Seth to that and you have a very tanky Endurance build, or a Versatile build that lets you run whatever Soul and EX ability you want. Replace Gaia with Titania and you have a very-effective Burst build that can take full advantage of Shingen. Like Water, Wind teams are very flexible; with minor adjustments to the lineup you can make very offensive or defensive builds, which is very nice for a main element.

The big question is whether SSR Cybele will be available with the 2nd Miracle ticket. That'll determine whether Wind becomes extremely powerful, on par with Water, or remains a late-bloomer.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

SSR Cybele gives Wind a free Sniper Shot, presumably with a higher accuracy rate. She's worth it for that alone. With her and Hastur, you have 2/3 of the core debuffs covered. Pair that with Joan (or Mordred w/ ATK down EX) and Gaia and you have a well-balanced build that can cover most situations. Add Seth to that and you have a very tanky Endurance build, or a Versatile build that lets you run whatever Soul and EX ability you want. Replace Gaia with Titania and you have a very-effective Burst build that can take full advantage of Shingen. Like Water, Wind teams are very flexible; with minor adjustments to the lineup you can make very offensive or defensive builds, which is very nice for a main element.

The big question is whether SSR Cybele will be available with the 2nd Miracle ticket. That'll determine whether Wind becomes extremely powerful, on par with Water, or remains a late-bloomer.

Unless Nutaku releases the 2nd ticket before the end of March, it's quite possible that we will be getting christmas early.