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    you're telling me that;s not the same thing ? What's the difference ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolix View Post
    you're telling me that;s not the same thing ? What's the difference ?
    To hyper-oversimplify, the damage formula is this:

    WeaponAssault*ElementalAttack

    If your Assault grid is low, there won't be much of a difference. But once your Assault grid gets high, you need to get every single little bit of elemental attack you can get your hands on.

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    that;s overly complicated for absolutly no reason

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    it does seem rather complicated at first, but the overall thing to go for is Atk increases over anything else.

    not saying other increases wouldn't help (cause i know HP does for teams like my fire and thunder ones), it's just that atk helps the most.

    it's why i got Slephnir (currently gives 55% wind atk and drop rate up), over Jabberwock (50% more wind atk along with ability damage up). Not just cause my wind team doesn't have many wind ability nukes, but it's also cause my grid has a ton of SSR wind items on it, with lv125 weapons to fill a few holes for the time being

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    it's why i got Slephnir (currently gives 55% wind atk and drop rate up), over Jabberwock (50% more wind atk along with ability damage up)--
    Those are both Character Attack, so for damage output, they're terrible. Garuda or a R with elemental attack would be far stronger.

    Using Sleipnir is acceptable on content which you can handle with lower damage output though. Since more drops is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    To hyper-oversimplify, the damage formula is this:

    WeaponAssault*ElementalAttack

    If your Assault grid is low, there won't be much of a difference. But once your Assault grid gets high, you need to get every single little bit of elemental attack you can get your hands on.
    wait a minute... so ur saying that....

    this eidolon: http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Cat_Sith

    is better than this eidolon: http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Archangel

    is that correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QXZ View Post
    wait a minute... so ur saying that....

    this eidolon: http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Cat_Sith

    is better than this eidolon: http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Archangel

    is that correct?
    Higher potential, yes. Actually reaching that potential is quite tough due to the stat difference between the R and the SSR... for you. For your friends? Not that tough. Attainable with a pure SR grid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QXZ View Post
    wait a minute... so ur saying that....

    this eidolon: http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Cat_Sith

    is better than this eidolon: http://kamihime-project.wikia.com/wiki/Archangel

    is that correct?
    Assuming another eido grants +40% element atk, and a +130% weapon grid (maxed SR, SSR may not really get it higher)

    Cat: (1+1.3) x (1+0.4+0.3) = 3.91
    Angel: (1+1.3+0.5) x (1+0.4) = 3.92

    Also worth mentioning:
    Union event buff: +100% chara atk
    Elemental advantage: +45% element atk
    Soul exclusive weapon: +30% element atk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    Assuming another eido grants +40% element atk, and a +130% weapon grid (maxed SR, SSR may not really get it higher)

    Cat: (1+1.3) x (1+0.4+0.3) = 3.91
    Angel: (1+1.3+0.5) x (1+0.4) = 3.92

    Also worth mentioning:
    Union event buff: +100% chara atk
    Elemental advantage: +45% element atk
    Soul exclusive weapon: +30% element atk
    Assuming the other eido is +Light char ATK 40% instead, then...

    Cat: (1+1.3 + 0.4) x (1+0.3) = 3.51
    Angel: (1+1.3+0.5 + 0.4) x (1) = 3.2


    so Cat could be +10% better over Angel, if ignoring the stats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Those are both Character Attack, so for damage output, they're terrible. Garuda or a R with elemental attack would be far stronger.

    Using Sleipnir is acceptable on content which you can handle with lower damage output though. Since more drops is better.
    well, i have a 1* garuda.... which should give 35% wind i think

    no quezetcotl either cause she's the ONE event eidolon i missed getting a copy of...


    plus given what you said, i'm guessing ifrit (55%), huanglong (MLB), and hecatonchires (40%) all suck too huh?

    i also have azathoth, but also a 3*echidna....

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